Future Grands Prix?

[JacobP]

It has come to my attention that a whole bunch of future GPs are about to be canceled.

The GP of Crimea will be canceled due to technical difficulties. Ukraine cut off Crimea's water supply. As a result, the cars may overheat during the race due to inadequate cooling, not to mention the spectators without adequate access to potable water.

The GP of Thailand will be canceled because of the political instability, since the army launched a political coup against the government.

The GP of Luhansk People's Republic. Unfortunately, the newly founded LPR is suffering from political instability as well. Vyacheslav Ponomarev, the people's mayor of Luhansk, was removed from power on June 10th by the military wing of LPR.

Fallujah International GP. The government in Baghdad lost the control of this city after the ISIS rebels took control of this city.

GP of Nigeria. The Nigerian government can no longer afford the race sanctioning fees after it agreed to fairly compensate its national team players at the World Cup.

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

On a side note, any news on the Mexican Grand Prix? That's actually one I'd like to see return...

[Tucky]

I believe it's on the calendar for next year, but whether it actually takes place I have no idea.

[JeremySmith]

Originally Posted by bella

very pleased to see a lot of further positivity about the austrian gp in autosport this week as well. the more the press and attendees bang on about how good it was for *everyone*, the more chance there is that people might just start to listen.

the entire venue is already a great example of how to spend money well, and it seems the grand prix has been done in exactly the same way. spending money on creating a great environment for the ticketholders and fans isn't wasted at all.

another interesting event is the bes meeting at paul ricard. racing goes on into the night, and there's a pit building roof party with djs. it's the little things.

Ditto.... We need more of this positive feeling !

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

On a side note, any news on the Mexican Grand Prix? That's actually one I'd like to see return...

I don't think that the Mexican GP will stay after a long return. After all, Bernie and his boring designer Tilke would molest- I mean, upgrade the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez for his pocket.

It's going to be a repeat of 2007 Japanese Grand Prix at Fuji Speedway. God, I feel that Fuji needs to be un-Tilke'd!

Anyways, the upgrade to the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez will not only be expensive, but it won't be safe even with retooling to a boring layout!

[Sodemo]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

I don't think that the Mexican GP will stay after a long return. After all, Bernie and his boring designer Tilke would molest- I mean, upgrade the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez for his pocket.

It's going to be a repeat of 2007 Japanese Grand Prix at Fuji Speedway. God, I feel that Fuji needs to be un-Tilke'd!

Anyways, the upgrade to the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez will not only be expensive, but it won't be safe even with retooling to a boring layout!

The current state of mt Fuji is the very definition of f1s habit of "destroy then move on".

[wnut]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

I don't think that the Mexican GP will stay after a long return. After all, Bernie and his boring designer Tilke would molest- I mean, upgrade the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez for his pocket.

It's going to be a repeat of 2007 Japanese Grand Prix at Fuji Speedway. God, I feel that Fuji needs to be un-Tilke'd!

Anyways, the upgrade to the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez will not only be expensive, but it won't be safe even with retooling to a boring layout!

It was not for wimps, corner after the length plus a bit of the current straight, and it followed a blind crest.

[wnut]

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

The current state of mt Fuji is the very definition of f1s habit of "destroy then move on".

Agreed! Anyways, I wonder if Bernie is aiming for 30 rounds in the future, posing a threat to NASCAR Sprint Cup's 36 rounds?

Wait, I have a better idea. Why not add a chase to screw those NASCAR fans out!

[S griffin]

I think with Fuji though they had no choice. They needed to lengthen the lap, otherwise it would have been less that a minute per lap.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I think with Fuji though they had no choice. They needed to lengthen the lap, otherwise it would have been less that a minute per lap.

Um, the red bits are the bits they cut out!

[Teretonga]

Originally Posted by wnut

Um, the red bits are the bits they cut out!

The red bits were cut out years ago. The revised circuit that was re-engineered by Hermann Tilke was based on the shorter circuit. Ina actual fact the Tilke revision only made a few hundred metres difference to the length, if that much.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Teretonga

The red bits were cut out years ago. The revised circuit that was re-engineered by Hermann Tilke was based on the shorter circuit. Ina actual fact the Tilke revision only made a few hundred metres difference to the length, if that much.

F1 circuit -> go kart track -> tricycle traffic playground

[321Go]

Bernie wants to drop Monza from the calendar.

Bernie Ecclestone: "It's not good. I don't think we'll do another contract, as the old one has been disastrous for us from a commercial point of view.

"So it's bye-bye after 2016."

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by 321Go

Bernie wants to drop Monza from the calendar.

Bernie Ecclestone: "It's not good. I don't think we'll do another contract, as the old one has been disastrous for us from a commercial point of view.

"So it's bye-bye after 2016."

Did Bernie have to pay Monza to hold the GP, thats about the only way I would describe it as a disaster.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Did Bernie have to pay Monza to hold the GP, thats about the only way I would describe it as a disaster.

I thought Monza paid a reduced fee to Bernie, like Silverstone and Monaco because of it's hitorical significance? The reduced fee must be the commercial disaster Bernie's referring to.

Otherwise to get rid of Monza just beggars belief. Who was it who posted, F1's imploding?

[wolfhound]

He has already got rid of France, has tried to get rid of the British GP and is working on the German GP so that he now focuses on the Italian GP is no surprise. I wonder how long Monaco has left after all they don't pay any hosting fees if my memory serves me right.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

He has already got rid of France, has tried to get rid of the British GP and is working on the German GP so that he now focuses on the Italian GP is no surprise. I wonder how long Monaco has left after all they don't pay any hosting fees if my memory serves me right.

Gradually get rid of all the GPs, that form the nucleus of F1 tracks and replace them with, featureless Tilkedromes in countries who have llittle or no motorsports heritage but who are willing to pay Bernie his fee, so they can join his exclusive club. Rant over.

[Sodemo]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I think with Fuji though they had no choice. They needed to lengthen the lap, otherwise it would have been less that a minute per lap.

I'm all for the preservation of race tracks in their original, or as close to their original form as possible. Pandering to one race series (f1), which might use a said track for 3 days out of 365 in a year, to me is insulting to its history and heritage that these older tracks possess. At least Imola has now been returned to some of its former glory now that it's free from the shackles of F1's illogical and hypocritical safety standards.

I'm so glad to hear that the nordschliefe has been saved and that next year the wtcc will race there for the first time. Just because f1 doesn't race on a track, doesn't mean that track is left to rot. There are other race series out there, that will be more than willing to race on these tracks that f1 in its ultimate wisdom deems "too dangerous".

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

I'm starting to wish that Ferrari made that break-away series that they threatened to a few years ago. I'd rather see Bernie go than Monza go any day. There are 6 GPs you cannot remove - Monaco, Britain, Belgium, Germany Japan and Italy. Luckily the tifosi would rather have Bernie's head than see Monza leave, but with all of these stupid reg changes to improve the 'show,' but maybe part of the reason is due to the new circuits being awful in the first place. The FIA elite are becoming greedier and greedier, ruining the entire heritage and in some ways the respect that F1 carries just to make themselves richer. The whole situation is a joke, and I hope someone tells Bernie that he may be losing his mind with his age...

[Articus]

Originally Posted by 321Go

Bernie wants to drop Monza from the calendar.

Bernie Ecclestone: "It's not good. I don't think we'll do another contract, as the old one has been disastrous for us from a commercial point of view.

"So it's bye-bye after 2016."

Over the Tifosi's dead body...and Ferrari's too. I think he's bluffing. Bernie is too greedy.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by Articus

Over the Tifosi's dead body...and Ferrari's too. I think he's bluffing. Bernie is too greedy.

But I'll bet he ends up with a much bigger take from the Monza organisers than he gets now.

[Sodemo]

Let's hope the Italians make him an offer he cannot refuse.

[alfettafan]

Originally Posted by 321Go

Bernie wants to drop Monza from the calendar.

Bernie Ecclestone: "It's not good. I don't think we'll do another contract, as the old one has been disastrous for us from a commercial point of view.

"So it's bye-bye after 2016."

We'd be better off if it as bye bye Bernie before 2016.

[Articus]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

Let's hope the Italians make him an offer he cannot refuse.

Bernie ought to know better than to cross Italian men...