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Old 19 Mar 2004, 18:23 (Ref:910996)   #1
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speaking about trackside incidents? help

Recent threads have left me wondering what incidents can and can’t be discussed on public forums.

When talking on this forum about incidents witnessed on the race track what should marshals say? Should we comment on what we have seen or say nothing?

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Old 19 Mar 2004, 19:31 (Ref:911075)   #2
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Old 19 Mar 2004, 20:06 (Ref:911106)   #3
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depends on what exactly you are discussing and why
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Old 19 Mar 2004, 21:20 (Ref:911159)   #4
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If you are cautious - say little. If you are reckless or very, very careful about what you say; then say what you see/feel/think.

Never speak on behalf of others and always consider carefully the impact of what you say on others.

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Old 19 Mar 2004, 21:37 (Ref:911170)   #5
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the best thing paul is to say nothing
u dont know u might be asking the questions
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Old 19 Mar 2004, 22:07 (Ref:911193)   #6
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Never say anything you're not prepared to repeat in court.

If you think you might possibly have to repeat it in court, you probably shouldn't say it.

But...feel free to rip the p*** out of your fellow marshals, just so long as you're prepared for them to rip it out of you in return!
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Old 19 Mar 2004, 23:01 (Ref:911248)   #8
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Re: speaking about trackside incidents? help

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Recent threads have left me wondering what incidents can and can’t be discussed on public forums.

When talking on this forum about incidents witnessed on the race track what should marshals say? Should we comment on what we have seen or say nothing?

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SAY NOTHING!! This is an open forum and some incidents may be "sub judice" for a long time. Anything you say on an open forum may be construed as evidence and could affect the outcome of any legal proceedings. What you have to remember is who reads these forums - less trustworthy press for one.

If your incident is amusing then by all means discuss it but otherwise be like the three wise monkeys - see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Or as I would say in my native Yorkshire - when in doubt say nowt!!!

Hope this helps.

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Old 20 Mar 2004, 04:20 (Ref:911450)   #9
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I'd be interested to know how many court cases arise from racing incidents in a season.
Anyone prepared/allowed to say, do feel free to PM me with the answer, if there is one.
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Paul, the majority of marshals clubs do have guidelines on this in any case and we are generally asked not to publically comment on incidents we have been involved in for all the reasons mentioned above.

Always bear in mind that as a marshal, you are deemed to have an official role in any incident and as such, you need to behave in as professional and objective a manner as you possibly can.

Which pretty much brings me back to Sheila's advise - when in doubt, say nowt!
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Old 20 Mar 2004, 18:10 (Ref:912437)   #11
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I'd be interested to know how many court cases arise from racing incidents in a season.
Anyone prepared/allowed to say, do feel free to PM me with the answer, if there is one.
Not many Court cases admittedly but there are MSA Tribunals which can take some time to sort out.
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 11:25 (Ref:913856)   #12
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 22:17 (Ref:914353)   #13
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I'd be interested to know how many court cases arise from racing incidents in a season.
Anyone prepared/allowed to say, do feel free to PM me with the answer, if there is one.

John I don't know the absolute answer but from the research I have done I would imagine that there are perhaps two or three incidents a year that end up being reported from the court. It does seem that track days and "private" sessions result in more claims than race meetings. However, what I have no idea about is whether more claims are made that fall by the wayside or perhaps are settled in some respect before they are reported in open court - I would imagine that a greater number of claims are started.

Litigation seems to be increasing, often brought about by insurers and for numerous reasons claims often take many years before coming to court.

As we've said on here before, all signed on officials are covered by public liability provided through the MSA.
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