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30 Apr 2012, 19:06 (Ref:3067595) | #1 | ||
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Dreaming of a FIA/FIM Motorsport World Cup - Formula event
Hi, folks! Today I woke up dreaming of a FIA/FIM Motorsport World Cup, the equivalent of the Olympics and the FIFA, FIBA, IAAF and IRB World Cups. It would be held in a rotating single venue every four years. It would show all motorsport disciplines in a single event, promote technology development and road safety, and attract major audiences.
The main disciplines would be formula racing, sports prototypes, grand tourers, touring cars, rallying, rallycross, superbikes, motocross, enduro and trial. Secondary disciplines could be oval racing, trucks, drifting, hillclimbing, ice racing, freestyle motoross, etc. The final events would be karting and minibikes, with the podium finishers and polesitters from all the disciplines. Each country would field up to 3 drivers in each discipline, so in a 24-vehicle grid there could be over a dozen countries represented. - o - Rather than expensive F1, I'd run the formula event with cheaper but still powerful IndyCar, GP2, Formula Renault 3.5 or AutoGP. This would be my formula grid: o- Germany: Vettel, Schumacher, Rosberg o- Britain: Button, Hamilton, Franchitti o- France: Grosjean, Pagenaud, Bourdais o- United States: Rahal, Hunter-Reay, Andretti o- Canada: Hinchcliffe o- Mexico: Pérez o- Brazil: Massa, Barrichello, Castroneves o- Australia: Webber, Power, Briscoe o- New Zealand: Dixon o- Japan: Kobayashi, Sato o- Spain: Alonso, Serviá o- Finland: Raikkonen, Kovalainen o- Russia: Petrov Who would you pick? Last edited by NaBUru38; 30 Apr 2012 at 19:08. Reason: added formula cars |
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30 Apr 2012, 20:28 (Ref:3067631) | #2 | |
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Briscoe over Ricciardo is laughable.
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1 May 2012, 17:54 (Ref:3067970) | #3 | ||
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Well, winning multiple IndyCar races for Penske ranks higher to me than winning Formula Renault 3.5 and getting hired by a Formula 1 team based in Faenza.
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1 May 2012, 18:54 (Ref:3067997) | #4 | |
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Briscoe has been awful since 2009. Second rate in every way. Ricciardo has shown quality like few before him in lower ranks. If it weren't for his F1 duties, he could have been a double FR 3.5 champ in it's most competitive years.
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This isnt a bad dream tbh.. wish this would come real..
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Thanks, Coopz!
ptclaus, Briscoe was 5th in 2010 with 1 win, 3 podiums and 8 top 5, and 6th in 2011 with 4 podiums. He did retire at Indianapolis both editions. Remind that this Motorsport World Cup isn't just about the best drivers, but also about the stars. |
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Ricciardo, based on being in F1, already has more star power, and once he replaces Webber, that will grow ten-fold.
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So if we have 4 wheels, 2 wheels, dirt and asphalt, why only single seater racers? Why no MotoGP riders? No WRC racers?
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I mentioned all motorsport disciplines. I wrote the full formula driver list here because this thread is in the formula racing subforum ("This would be my formula grid:"). The sports car list is here. The other lists are a bit easier to pull, so I didn't take time to make them.
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6 Aug 2013, 22:23 (Ref:3286676) | #11 | |
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This would be my formula grid:
o- Argentina: Augusto Scalbi, Gaston Mazzacane, Juan Cruz Álvarez o- Britain: Danny Watts, Dan Clarke, Jenson Button o- France: Olivier Panis, Christopher Bouchut, Franck Montagny o- United States: Alexander Rossi, Jake Rosenzweig, AJ Allmendinger o- Canada: Alex Tagliani, Andrew Ranger, Robert Wickens o- Mexico: Pablo Sánchez López, Michel Jourdain Jr, Salvador Duran o- Brazil: Enrique Bernoldi, Antonio Pizzonia, Christian Fittipaldi o- Australia: James Courtney, Mark Webber, Renee Gracie o- Sweden: Axl Danielsson, Björn Wirdheim, Stefan Johansson o- Japan: Kosuke Matsuura, Hiroki Yoshimoto, Kamui Kobayashi o- Spain: Fernando Alonso, Javier Villa, Andy Soucek o- Finland: Heikki Kovalainen, Jesse Krohn, Mika Vähämäki o- Russia: Mikhail Aleshin, Vitaly Petrov, Roman Rusinov |
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That seems very random, kurski. Are they your favourites?
OPs list is just F1 and Indycar drivers, ignoring other formula. |
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7 Aug 2013, 09:42 (Ref:3286837) | #13 | |
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In the right Order
Germany: Sebastian Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Michael Schumacher Britain: Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button, James Calado Finland: Kimi Räikkönen, Valtteri Bottas, Heikki Kovalainen Australia: Mark Webber, Will Power, Daniel Ricciardo Brazil: Rubens Barrichello, Felipe Nasr, Hélio Castroneves Spain: Fernando Alonso, Jaime Alguersuari, Daniel Juncadella France: Sébastien Bourdain, Romain Grosjean, Simon Pagenaud Denmark: Jan Magnussen, Marco Sorensen, Tom Kristensen Italy: Davide Valsecchi, Giancarlo Fisichella, Raffaele Marciello Russia: Vitaly Petrov, Sergey Sirotkin, Daniil Kvyat Swiss: Sébastien Buemi, Fabio Leimer, Nico Müller Japan: Takuma Sato, Kamui Kobayashi, Kazuki Nakajima Netherlands: Robin Frijns, Giedo van der Garde, Nigel Melker New Zealand: Scott Dixon, Mitch Evans, Chris van der Drift Mexico: Sergio Perez, Michel Jourdain jr., Esteban Gutiérrez Canada: Jacques Villeneuve, Robert Wickens, James Hinchcliffe Portugal: Antonio Felix da Costa, Alvaro Parente, Tiago Monteiro Columbia: Juan-Pablo Montoya, Carlos Munoz, Oscar Tunjo Austria: Lucas Auer, René Binder, Alexander Wurz Monaco: Stefano Coletti, Stéphane Richelmi, Olivier Beretta Venezuela: Pastor Maldonado, Ernesto Viso, Johnny Cecotto jr. Belgia: Stoffel Vandoorne, Jérôme D'Ambrosio, Bars Leinders USA: Marco Andretti, Graham Rahal, Charlie Kimball Sweden: Marcus Ericsson, Kenny Bräck, Jimmy Eriksson Hungary: Zsolt Baumgartner, Tamás Pál Kiss, Norbert Michelisz India: Narain Karthikeyan, Karun Chandhock, Armaan Ebrahim Argentinia: José Mar*a Lopez, Facundo Regalia, Gaston Mazzacane Malaysia: Alex Yoong, Fairuz Fauzy, Nabil Jeffri Czech: Jan Charouz, Filip Salaquarda, Jaroslav Janis China: Ho-Pin Tung, Ma Qing Hua, Adderly Fong |
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No Massa, Franchitti, Briscoe, Hunter-Reay or Serviá?
The rest of your list is fine, but I was thinking about less than 30 drivers. Mazzacane should never drive a race car again. |
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8 Aug 2013, 01:09 (Ref:3287107) | #15 | |
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I agree with much of formulahistory's list. I cut out some countries and some no hopers from represented countries and got it down to a more reasonable 48 drivers. I also made some changes (like Pagenaud over Bianchi, Vergne and Duval?), but not many.
Germany: Sebastian Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Nico Hulkenburg Britain: Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button, James Calado Finland: Kimi Räikkönen, Valteri Bottas, Heikki Kovalainen Australia: Mark Webber, Will Power, Daniel Ricciardo Brazil: Rubens Barrichello, Felipe Nasr, Felipe Massa Spain: Fernando Alonso, Jaime Alguersuari, Daniel Juncadella France: Jules Bianchi, Romain Grosjean, Loic Duval Italy: Davide Valsecchi, Raffaele Marciello Russia: Vitaly Petrov Swiss: Sébastien Buemi, Fabio Leimer, Nico Müller Japan: Kamui Kobayashi, Kazuki Nakajima, Koudai Tsukakoshi Netherlands: Robin Frijns, Giedo van der Garde, Nigel Melker New Zealand: Scott Dixon, Mitch Evans Mexico: Sergio Perez, Esteban Gutiérrez Canada: Robert Wickens, James Hinchcliffe Portugal: Antonio Felix da Costa Austria: Lucas Auer, Alexander Wurz Monaco: Stefano Coletti Venezuela: Pastor Maldonado Belgia: Stoffel Vandoorne, Jérôme D'Ambrosio USA: Alexander Rossi, Ryan Hunter-Reay |
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Yes, but all countries should have the same numbers of drivers.
And I think that Sirotkin and Kvyat are promising drivers for example. |
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I assume the car will be "big", so I tried to avoid leaving off youngsters that haven't accomplished all that much or don;t have much experience in "big" cars and thus might not be ready to go head-to-head with the best. I probably should have left off Lucas Auer too.
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Thread bump!
As we are in Olympic spirit, here's my grid proposal:
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In the spirit of the Olympics, I think the drivers should be 'amateurs' or at least not have competed at the highest level of their discipline (i.e. F1/WRC1/MotoGP/WEC LMH). The criteria I've used is each country must have 2 drivers with at least 1 season of single-seater competition below F1/WEC/Indy and are still competing in any form of motorsport.
Angola: Rui Andrade, Lorenzo Campos Argentina: Franco Colapinto, Marcos Siebert Australia: Christian Mansell, James Wharton Austria: Charlie Wurz, Josh Dufek Belgium: Amaury Cordeel, Thomas Strauven Brazil: Gabriel Bortoleto, Rafael Camara Canada: Patrick Woods-Toth, Nico Christodoulou Chile: Nico Pino, Nicolas Ambiado China: Gao Yujia, Ruiqi Liu Colombia: Sebastian Montoya, Maximiliano Restrepo Denmark: Frederik Vesti, Noah Strømsted Estonia: Paul Aron, Juri Vips (technically not legal but eh) France: Victor Martins, Isack Hadjar Germany: Oliver Goethe, Tim Tramnitz GB: Taylor Barnard, Arvid Lindblad India: Kush Maini, Nikhil Bohra Indonesia: Sean Gelael, Presley Martono Ireland: Alex Dunne, Niall Murray Israel: Alon Day, Roy Nissany Italy: Kimi Antonelli, Gabriele Mini Japan: Ritomo Miyata, Ayumu Iwasa South Korea: Michael Shin, Roelof Bruins Malaysia: Akash Nandy, Nazim Azman Mexico: Rafael Villagomez, Noel Leon Monaco: Arthur Leclerc, Louis Prette Morocco: Suleiman Zanfari, Sami Taoufik Netherlands: Richard Verschoor, Laurens van Hoepen Norway: Dennis Hauger, Martinius Stenshorne Philippines: Bianca Bustamente, Juancho Brobio Poland: Roman Bilinski, Kacper Sztuka Portugal: Ivan Domingues, Francisco Macedo Spain: Pepe Marti, Mari Boya Sweden: Dino Beganovic, Gustav Jonsson Thailand: Sandy Stuvik, Tas Inthrapuvasak UAE: Federico Rifai, Hamda Al Qubaisi USA: Jak Crawford, Jacob Abel 2 heat races per team, final for the Top 20... |
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Thanks for the proposal, Alessio!
Also yours are not technically amateurs either. How about a Bronze Olympics? |
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Perhaps a slightly outdated tradition, but it’s still sort of present in some sports. I modelled it based on footballs U25 concept (somewhat similar to A1GP too). Perhaps not ‘amateur’ but with an aim to avoid F1/IndyCar/WEC LMH/Gold or Platinum GT drivers as best as I can.
Also, if the Olympics were to take up Motorsport again, I’d probably propose drifting, rally and KZ karting as the disciplines so as to maximise the number of involved nations. |
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I couldn’t think of a Swiss driver duo, perhaps Boschung and Lena Buhler? I don’t think either are still competing though.
Another conundrum… which country would win out of our 2 versions? F1 included, surely Britain although Germany, Netherlands, Australia and NZ1 would definitely offer a good fight. As for the “amateurs”, France then Brazil and Italy seems like a good bookies bet? Regarding a suitable car choice, how about Mitjet? If we have to go electric, and I’m sure the Olympics would, how about a tarmac-only tuned WRX car? |
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Yes good pick for France. Mitjet? Not sure. If you go this way, may be a Ligier JS2 R or a Lamera would be better? Not sure either!
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