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Old 9 Sep 2013, 12:44 (Ref:3300974)   #1
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The booing of Vettel & is Vettel a great?

Now, i'm sure that there are more than a few of you on here that are rather enjoying seeing Vettel booed and jeered on virtually every podium, but just wondered what your thoughts on the matter are?

It would appear that its got to the stage where its making the back pages of the papers.

Now, I've been giving it some thought, and as a Seb fan, i'm not saying that the "fans" showing their displeasure is unjustified, but it's the intensity that surprises me. Yes, he disobeyed team orders, cheated as a good friend of mine keeps reminding me, but if we compare it to....

Senna cheating his way to a title by taking Prost off in Suzuka 1990.

Schumacher cheating his way to a titl by taking Hill off in Adelaide 1994

Schumacher trying to cheat his way to a title in Jerez 1997

All actions that haven't resulted in the same amount of dissatisfifation shown by the fans at the circuits that Vettel receives.

Just wondering if its now gone too far or if you can see it ending soon?
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:00 (Ref:3300977)   #2
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I find it incredibly disappointing.

I would have thought that, as a community, we were 'above' that sort of thing.

But, i guess if you turn the show into Super Mario Kart to attract the pondlife dollar, you have to deal with the consequences.
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:02 (Ref:3300978)   #3
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I've said as much as I feel I need to say about it elsewhere.
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:03 (Ref:3300979)   #4
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In Italy the difference is:

1) You drive for ferrari----> GOD
2) You don't drive for ferrari------> Boooooo

That's it. Not so difficult.. Schumacher was hated before he came to Ferrari, same thing for Alonso after the Mclaren scandal.. When they came to Ferrari the crowd just went mad for them..
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:06 (Ref:3300982)   #5
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As far as I'm aware this is nothing new. My parents went to the Italian GP in 1990 and the fans threw bottles at Senna's car and some of them even left when the Ferraris retired.

It's disappointing, yes. But if you're going to have an event with tens or hundreds of thousands of people, no matter where you hold it and no matter what the event there will be some who spoil it for you in some way.
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:10 (Ref:3300985)   #6
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Fanatical supporters booing the opposition! Surely not, whatever next!!
It happens in all sports, get real.
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:29 (Ref:3300994)   #7
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As a Ferrari fan, I find it despicable and totally classless. Most sports fans I know, or at least the ones I choose to associate with, congratulate & compliment the victor no matter how hard it is to swallow.

At the end of the race Alonso stood there and waited for Seb to get out of the car so he could shake his hand and offer his congratulations on a well deserved victory. That behaviour should have carried over to the fans & haters who seemed to be more wrapped up in “it should have been, (insert favourite driver here) who won the race” than applauding the winner.

This Seb hatred seems to be growing amongst those who grasp for straws when picking a DOTR by choosing ANYBODY who had a few good laps whilst overwhelming choosing Seb’s team as the TOTR. How does that work? Oh I get it, “Seb has no talent, it’s all about Newey, the car and the team, he led from pole, he was unchallenged, any git could drive the RB9 to victory, team orders, it's bad for the sport, bla, bla, bla…”

…unless of course it was (insert favourite driver here) driving another car in the identical circumstances, then it would have been “a brilliant drive in that dog of a car, DOTR, amazing”…utter rubbish.

It is too bad people let their jealousy get in the way of what Vettel has accomplished in such a short time even if they don’t like it, instead of shedding tears or anger for what could have been or should have been, (their thoughts, not mine) for (insert favourite driver here).

I root for Ferrari every race and get extremely disappointed when things don’t go “our” way, but I appreciate, admire and applaud success when it doesn’t come at the expense of someone else’s extreme misfortune. Getting beat fairly & squarely is hardly a reason to loathe and boo someone. It is the behaviour of a jealous poor sport. I sincerely hope the FIA brings the post-race interviews back indoors with no audience. The boo-birds don’t deserve an opportunity to show their lack of class.

Congratulations Seb from this Tifosi on a fine race and superb victory. Hopefully we’ll get you next race!
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:34 (Ref:3300997)   #8
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 13:39 (Ref:3300999)   #9
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Fanatical supporters booing the opposition! Surely not, whatever next!!
It happens in all sports, get real.
Non Ferrari drivers will always get booed, sure, but this, same as Silverstone, when Vettel retired and Montreal, where he won has reached different levels is the point I was making.
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Old 9 Sep 2013, 14:20 (Ref:3301012)   #10
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Out of all the cheaters of the past I rate Schumacher on the bottom of my list (bottom being my most disliked driver). He didn't just run drivers off the the track (to add HHF in Montreal when coming out of the pits, which is why they changed the configuration and also to add the helmet scandal and illegal traction control software, blame everyone else, etc.), but with that being said he never got booed like SV.

I think people don't like the in-your-face victory antics, the sometimes whining on the radio, the swearing on the podium, the Webber inciident, the finger, just his bratty immature(ish) persona etc. So, I am guessing it is all the little irritable things collectively adding up along with hearing it all the time when he wins has contributed to the boos. I am sure if he was a little more reserved and professional, people would see him in a different way. Well, anything like he is now. Maybe the victory screams on the radio after every race is getting on everyone's nerves?

I liked SV early on, seemed like a nice guy (he still is don't get me wrong), but I feel sick and tired just like everyone else. I am not speaking for everyone else, but don't hit at me for saying it.
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If he wasn't winning he might even be proclaimed as a boyish breath of fresh air. It would be interesting to see how everyone would feel about Raikkonen's persona if he dominated like Vettel.
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If he wasn't winning he might even be proclaimed as a boyish breath of fresh air. It would be interesting to see how everyone would feel about Raikkonen's persona if he dominated like Vettel.
Or if Kimi swore like him on the podium or showed his bratty immature(ish) persona by winging something like, "leave me alone, I know what I am doing" over the radio....

Maybe all Seb needs to do to silence the boos is apologize for winning...

Farcical boo silencing post race radio communication: Sebastian sobbing, (no happy scream) "I am so sorry I won the race boys, I tried my best to let someone more worthy win this race but they just couldn't catch up, I truly apologize..."

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I think people don't like the in-your-face victory antics, the sometimes whining on the radio, the swearing on the podium, the Webber inciident, the finger, just his bratty immature(ish) persona etc. So, I am guessing it is all the little irritable things collectively adding up along with hearing it all the time when he wins has contributed to the boos. I am sure if he was a little more reserved and professional, people would see him in a different way. Well, anything like he is now. Maybe the victory screams on the radio after every race is getting on everyone's nerves?

I liked SV early on, seemed like a nice guy (he still is don't get me wrong), but I feel sick and tired just like everyone else. I am not speaking for everyone else, but don't hit at me for saying it.
I will hit at you for saying it !

You're happy for the guy to be booed because of his 'in your face victory antics', his 'victory screams on the radio' and his 'bratty immature(ish) persona'. Is he the only racing driver that's ever done any of these things ? What the hell is he supposed to do... stay silent, do nothing or just stop winning ? Maybe he ought to apologise for existing ?
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Of course, we'd ***** anyway if he did act more "mature" and "professional", because we'd then be saying that he "had no personality".
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There's an intensity and sense of high drama with Shumacher and Senna that doesn't appear with Vettel. Vettel seems a frivolous and easy-going character in comparison. That's likely unfair but that is what comes across I think and I think it rubs people the wrong way. Nothing to be done; just the way it is.

Tifosi booed Hunt back in the day. So I wouldn't necessarily read too much into it either.
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