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Old 18 Nov 2018, 17:24 (Ref:3864014)   #46
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With Ehrlacher in the third car it would be a very good lineup.
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Old 18 Nov 2018, 19:37 (Ref:3864034)   #47
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With Ehrlacher in the third car it would be a very good lineup.
Ehrlacher is an interesting talent, just a shame that Honda will lose him in favour of the Link & Co brand.

Surely Honda will have a big shake up. Guerrieri should be their top driver and hopefully Monteiro will return full time driving

Girolami has never convinced me in Volvo in WTCC. I think he could suffer in a grid with all these champion coming in 2019
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Old 18 Nov 2018, 20:43 (Ref:3864044)   #48
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https://www.motorsport.com/wtcr/news...-2019/3216073/

Interesting rumour from the article - sporting rules for 2019 may allow maximum 4 cars per manufaturer and no 3-car teams.

If that happens, Comtoyou will have to go down to 2 Audis, Munnich to 2 Hondas (maybe they will keep Scheider for the whole season)
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Old 18 Nov 2018, 21:43 (Ref:3864050)   #49
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sporting rules for 2019 may allow maximum 4 cars per manufaturer and no 3-car teams.
If that happens, Comtoyou will have to go down to 2 Audis, Munnich to 2 Hondas (maybe they will keep Scheider for the whole season)
But at the same time the article states:
"Lynk & Co did not disclose how many cars it would enter when announcing its programme, but it is thought likely it will add two more cars - sporting rules drafted for next season should allow a maximum of four cars to be entered by TCR brands but will prohibit three-car teams."
With Bjork and Muller it would suggest, that 3-car teams are disallowed, but 4-car ones are fine? So this way one team could lock out a single manufacturer's limit. What would happen to BRC then? It makes little sense for me right now.
Also the implication could mean, that there are no 1-car teams allowed (2+2 or 4 cars).
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Old 18 Nov 2018, 22:03 (Ref:3864051)   #50
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But at the same time the article states:
"Lynk & Co did not disclose how many cars it would enter when announcing its programme, but it is thought likely it will add two more cars - sporting rules drafted for next season should allow a maximum of four cars to be entered by TCR brands but will prohibit three-car teams."
With Bjork and Muller it would suggest, that 3-car teams are disallowed, but 4-car ones are fine? So this way one team could lock out a single manufacturer's limit. What would happen to BRC then? It makes little sense for me right now.
Also the implication could mean, that there are no 1-car teams allowed (2+2 or 4 cars).
So no Car Brand can have more then 4 cars and no team can have more then 2 cars so chances are Lynk & Co will run Muller and Bjork while another team would run the other 2 cars
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Lynk & Co is the manufacturer, not the racing team. They could contract a 2nd team. Or Cyan will run two cars and YMR will run two cars.

This season teams had already to enter two cars.

Personally I like the maximum two cars rule.
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Old 18 Nov 2018, 23:36 (Ref:3864074)   #52
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By the way when I wrote "What would happen to BRC then?" - in fact I meant: "what would happen, if one team would field all 4 cars from one manufacturer, be it directly (if it's allowed) or with a "proxy" team? What with other teams wishing to run same car?"
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Old 19 Nov 2018, 10:25 (Ref:3864198)   #53
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sporting rules for 2019 may allow maximum 4 cars per manufaturer and no 3-car teams.

If they're doing this maybe more manufacturers are coming! Probably not immediately in 2019, apart Link & Co brand, but with the growing interest in TCR this is not surprising me. Surely some new team could enter in WTCR 2019. YMR could run the other two car from Link & Co, I'm curious about who could run the other two Hyundai...

Is there any chance to see back the Lada brand afer two years of racing in Russia?
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How does WTCR (and TCR in general) define what is or isn't a 'manufacturer team'?

My understanding is that direct manufacturer involvement is not allowed. For example, JAS build the cars for Honda - they can supply other teams and provide technical support but they can't run a team themselves.

Cyan are building the cars and owned by the manufacturer (or at least owned by the same parent company). So how can they run a team?
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How does WTCR (and TCR in general) define what is or isn't a 'manufacturer team'?

My understanding is that direct manufacturer involvement is not allowed. For example, JAS build the cars for Honda - they can supply other teams and provide technical support but they can't run a team themselves.

Cyan are building the cars and owned by the manufacturer (or at least owned by the same parent company). So how can they run a team?

They can simply do the same as Romeo Ferraris. They started a new team called Team Mulsanne, which raced the Alfas built by Romeo Ferraris. But if you went down to the pitlane of the TCR Europe you could see the same at KCMG. I don't remember seeing any Asian faces but saw a lot of familiar boys from JAS.
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Old 19 Nov 2018, 18:06 (Ref:3864296)   #56
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How does WTCR (and TCR in general) define what is or isn't a 'manufacturer team'?

My understanding is that direct manufacturer involvement is not allowed. For example, JAS build the cars for Honda - they can supply other teams and provide technical support but they can't run a team themselves.

Cyan are building the cars and owned by the manufacturer (or at least owned by the same parent company). So how can they run a team?
they just use a different team as a ‘front’
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Old 20 Nov 2018, 11:08 (Ref:3864471)   #57
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In which case, these rules are rubbish.
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In which case, these rules are rubbish.

How could you avoid it? We may brave human laws, but we cannot resist natural ones.
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Old 20 Nov 2018, 18:27 (Ref:3864563)   #59
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In which case, these rules are rubbish.

I don't agree with you! If you want a series that travels around the globe you need manufacturer money. If you want a championship that has a decent level to attract sponsors, and has a strong driver lineup you simply need manufacturers.



Is it bad for small privateers? Yes. But the have to accept that this is another level.

I think there is nothing wrong with manufacturers supported teams, with works drivers. What we don't need in TCR is free development to increases budgets.
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How does WTCR (and TCR in general) define what is or isn't a 'manufacturer team'?

My understanding is that direct manufacturer involvement is not allowed. For example, JAS build the cars for Honda - they can supply other teams and provide technical support but they can't run a team themselves.

Cyan are building the cars and owned by the manufacturer (or at least owned by the same parent company). So how can they run a team?
Cyan are not building the cars and are independently owned. Geely Group Motorsport are building the cars: http://www.zgh.com/news/5230
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