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I think being within 10k of 2015 and 3k of last year which had better support lineups is still pretty decent.
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The 2009 race thread had 211 replies and 17,558 views. The 2017 race thread has had 54 replies and 3615 views. What does it all mean really??? I've been to Townsville three times and it's one of the best meetings around. |
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Forwards nothing but a whinge fest. You could cut & paste the same conversation from more than a dozen (more like 5 dozen!) threads on here and it's always the same result. Everyone sits in their own corner, defending it as if the lives of their mother & children depend on it... except truly, it's not that important. If you don't like government money being used on sport, complain to your local state or federal member, but make sure you itemise all the monies spent on any other sporting or cultural event too, just in case people might think you are biased against motorsport... |
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Having watched the racing on free to air over the weekend (yes that old chestnut) and speaking to those who made the trip North I didn't see/hear any noticeable drop in crowds. Townsville geographically is important as there are a lot of fans in the area and even people from other states go there because its a good weekend. There might be another round in the same state but Ipswich might as well be in another country going on how far apart they are from each. Hope the event goes from strength to strength regardless of how I feel about the future of the category Im all for government money being spent on motorsport, they waste enough on arts and other bs that I couldn't care less for. The figures spent on motorsport must pale in relation to all the other crap the government wastes my taxes on so the more the merrier. They could spend more on grass roots motorsports and club level but I digress. |
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Investing that street circuit money in existing or new circuits creates or improves the facilities for the public and the competitors - and these facilities are, or for new circuits, could be used for competition, club events, testing, driver training year round. I get that governments want events that are reasonably close to their CBD, and therefore have good support from tourist accommodation, facilities etc to attract interstate and international visitors. I also get that new circuits will never be built close to those CBDs and high population centres, so we have a conflict between facility location and tourism support. Victoria will be tested in a few years when Sandown closes. One of very few suburban race tracks left; on a train route, and holder of the iconic Sandown 500 for many years. One answer is for the government to invest in Calder. If they don't want government cash to be used on a privately owned circuit, then buy the circuit! This is of course conditional on being zoned such that it can continue to run without fear of being closed down by encroaching urban settlement. They could also take the approach taken by the WA government in building the Kwinana Motorplex. Locate a new facility in an industrial environment not likely to be urbanized, and go from there. Similar to Kwinana, the land around the refinery and other plants between Melbourne and Geelong come to mind. Near Avalon airport maybe? Will the Avalon Proving ground continue to be used after this year??? Our chosen sport has a strong NIMBY feel about it, and that is a cross we have to bear. It just seems that the dollars spent creating events could be better spent creating facilities and infrastructure, and providing assets that will earn an income in the future. We don't need Tilkedromes - Formula One's insistence on that sort of facility has a lot to answer for. |
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As it is, it's zoned appropriately for a racing circuit, but to be honest, that's all it has going for it. For the most part, the place is too far gone in many aspects, to just tart it up. However, the costs to knock it flat and start again, are just as eye-watering. |
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The flat track is too short, and the Thunderdome is just gone.
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What makes you think I am biased against 'motorsport'? The issue in discussion here is when events are sold on certain KPI's (such as crowds, EOI etc) are these aren't met or are dwindling - such as the most recent event at Homebush. Your response of 'why does it matter' shows a complete lack of understanding for the way the business works. Added to this, previous posts where you claimed that the Homebush event should retained because 'its a good day out for the corporates' suggests a little bias of your own. |
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