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10 Jun 2002, 21:42 (Ref:310058)
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How do you rate Johnny Herbert?
I can't really rate him because he had so many DNFs that it's hard to see his true ability. But I think that he could have had a shot at the WDC if he had had equal status alongside MS in 1995. I don't think he would have won, but I think he would have finished second.
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10 Jun 2002, 22:43 (Ref:310111)
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He was a lap-dog at Benetton. So we dont really know his potential...
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10 Jun 2002, 23:03 (Ref:310128)
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He's a pretty good driver... Upper midfield. I don't think his dedication was quite what it needed to be, but really, M$ ruined his career by effectively turning Benneton into a one-car team. With all those DNFs after he moved on, he was never really able to show his talent.
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10 Jun 2002, 23:17 (Ref:310140)
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We never saw his true ability thanks to his crash in F3000. Before that, he was THE next British hope.
But we only ever saw Johnny in a top car once, at Benetton in 1995, and we all know what happened there. But his drives at Lotus from 1991-94, Sauber in 1996-98 and at Stewart in 1999 proved his speed and dedication to the task. He sometimes got that Lotus in 1993 into positions that it shouldn't have been, while he was in spectacular form with the Sauber in 1997. |
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10 Jun 2002, 23:50 (Ref:310173)
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i think johnny has made the right move in his career and left a sport thats going stale and moved to the ALMS, a much better series at the moment!
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11 Jun 2002, 02:02 (Ref:310257)
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Yes shuey owned benneton,but johnny did have a all the time there to show he could at least push shuey.He didn't even come close.Not even remotely.
A very odd personality.A trully great,nice guy- but with too much ego to go with it(liked attention,usually thought he deserved more of something from all the teams he drove for).Odd |
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11 Jun 2002, 03:27 (Ref:310273)
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I originally thought this topic was about Johnny's performance as a TV commentator on CTV's coverage here in Canada! He was pretty good, but by the end of the race, if he had said "It should be interesting!" one more time, I was gonna put my foot thru the screen!!
Good luck to Mr. Herbert at Le Mans this weekend. |
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11 Jun 2002, 20:10 (Ref:310961)
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Herbert was good but inherited 3 undeserved wins. I think he got his fair share out of F1 despite his lack of performance in the series. As for Johnny being a good guy, I dont think so. He's bad mouthed a lot of people in his F1 career. Just because he smiles on tv doesent excuse what he has said over the years.
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11 Jun 2002, 20:22 (Ref:310977)
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I rate Herbs very highly indeed.
very highly , probally in my top 5 drivers of the last 10 years . He never had a true break to show what he could do . |
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11 Jun 2002, 21:26 (Ref:311059)
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won 3 races which may have came about by others misfortunes, but at the end of the day, he was the one at the right place at the right time and others weren't! glad he's doing well in ALM's and hope he wins the 24 hours!
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That's so frickin uncool man!
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11 Jun 2002, 21:45 (Ref:311081)
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And he dropped out of some potential very well deserved finishes, Monza 1994 springs to mind when he qualified the Lotus 3rd or 4th but was taken out at the first corner by Irvine and at the restart had to take the spare with an old spec engine which failed. |
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13 Jun 2002, 15:30 (Ref:312741)
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Remember his Debut for Benny at Suzuka 94 . He was straight into a podium position running in 3rd when his car aquaplaned off into the barrier along the start /finish straight . 20 seconds later and the saftey car came out as the water was getting too deep in the circuit .
Typical Herbert luck that is . Johnny was a top driver in F1 , very talented , but never got the break he deserved . Last edited by SILVERS95; 13 Jun 2002 at 15:32. |
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14 Jun 2002, 11:13 (Ref:313445)
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remember who was his team mate at Lotus....one Mika...at the time did anybody rate Mika??
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14 Jun 2002, 11:21 (Ref:313452)
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Yes, I remember during the 1992 British GP (IIRC) Murray Walker called Mika 'a future World Champion. Keep your eye on this boy.'
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14 Jun 2002, 12:33 (Ref:313500)
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come on, he's a journeyman at best
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14 Jun 2002, 12:44 (Ref:313512)
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Why didn't Jonny qualify at Indy 500.
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14 Jun 2002, 14:49 (Ref:313602)
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apparently, the team weren't good enough, the engine wasn't good enough and the car wasn't good enough
pot, kettle, black? |
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14 Jun 2002, 14:53 (Ref:313605)
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he was good enough to get the car on pole for Le Mans for this years race!
Go Johnny!!!!! |
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That's so frickin uncool man!
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14 Jun 2002, 15:04 (Ref:313619)
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Heh, using Dindo Capello's time, right?
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14 Jun 2002, 15:17 (Ref:313626)
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Using Johnnys set up work , right ?
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WHO SHOT JR ? lol Johnny didnt qualify for Indy because being a rookie he took direction from his team , they told him to wave off his first qualifing run on the saturday thinking he would have a better chance to put a good time in on the Sunday, But then it rained on the sunday and its a tad dangerous to drive round places like indy in the wet , so they dont allow it . This left Johnny only bump day to put his car on the grid , but he was already committed to race for Audi for the ALMS race on the same day . Pot calling kettle black , DONT THINK SO , Person with a Dallas name making silly post without thinking through ???? yep , think so ! |
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14 Jun 2002, 15:19 (Ref:313628)
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That's so frickin uncool man!
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14 Jun 2002, 15:28 (Ref:313638)
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just looking at the times, and if Capello hadn't have set that time, and the other Audi had still set it's time, Johnny's time from yesterday would still have been fast enough to put his/Capello's car 2nd on the grid!
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That's so frickin uncool man!
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14 Jun 2002, 15:37 (Ref:313644)
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Anyone remember Johnny testing a IRL car last year at Kentucky ( i think )?
more or less his first time out he set a time that would have put him 2nd on the grid from the race that was a couple of weeks before . Then again at Rockingham last summer , CART wanted to see what kind of wings it should take there for the race in the September , so they tested 2 cars at Rockingham , I cant remember who the other driver was , but he was a oval regular in CART and Johnny was right with him . Last year at Le Mans , he was racing for the privateer Champion team , and until the car died , he was catching the works Audi's quite nicely in the rain and wet conditions . I think that says that he has plenty of talent . |
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14 Jun 2002, 15:43 (Ref:313646)
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his practice times were never very good. but...im glad johnny went to sears point instead of the tainted indy.....where the guy in the lead was awarded second place... indy sucks....don't go back johnnny... good luck the real race.........le mans. |
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14 Jun 2002, 15:54 (Ref:313650)
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He was seriously catching the factory Audi at Mosport, too, with about 15 minutes to go, when he got a bit overagressive passing in Turn 2 and got off-course. Some brilliant driving up 'til then, tho. |
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