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Old 24 Jul 2008, 14:14 (Ref:2257209)   #46
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Can anyone help with any history of the Porsche in this photo? John Smith used it very briefly in the mid 80's. He bought it from someone in Holland or Belgium which was when this picture was taken.

Any of the previous history before John owned it would be appreciated and if it ever appeared in Rallycross after it was dumped in favour of the Xtrac.
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Old 24 Jul 2008, 15:53 (Ref:2257253)   #47
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I am 99.9% certain that this is a 911 that was owned by Dutchman Fred Kalkhuis. In my 1983 RX calendar it is on the February page, with the flat nose but without the rear spoiler. The blue and white design is nearly the same as on your pic and the sticker on the front bumper reads 'BIJL radiateuren haarlem'. The main sponsors of Fred were BIJL, Calor Haarlem and Paul Stokman Trucks Haarlem. As there is a windscreen sticker on my pic that reads ALPO Porsche (ALPO = Albers Porsche) I guess it was previously owned by André Albers, the daddy of former Formula One pilot and current DTM returnee Christijan Albers. I know that fat and flamboyant André had two 911s for RX, one was driven in the 1980 Danish ERC round by Albers himself and the other one by Danish racing legend Aage Matthiassen (sponsored by DANTAX by then), as I, myself mediated the deal with the two. AFAIR one of André’s two Porsches was also driven for a while by Dutchman Paul Fauchey, the manager who, many years later, helped Christijan Albers into the Mercedes DTM factory team.

BTW, are you in contact with my ol’ friends John and Jeeta Smith? After living in Folkestone (Kent) they used to live in Kissimmee (Florida), very close to Disney World, when I last heard from them.

PS: I have the feeling that the pic was taken at the Glossocircuit paddock (rather a meadow) at Arendonk in Belgium.

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Old 24 Jul 2008, 19:39 (Ref:2257347)   #48
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Thanks rx-guru, I had a feeling you would know.

Lost contact with the Smiths in the late 80's. My Father was a good friend during the 70's and became Johns mechanic in the 80's.

I have many fond memories of weekends at Rallycross meetings but only now really appreciate quite what we were involved in.

I'm just piecing together some of the mysteries surrounding John and his racing exploits, and this Porsche didn't really get much use as the Xtrac appeared on the scene quite soon after. I was just interested in the Porsches history.

I do have some nice pictures and funny stories of those days but not quite sure where to post them, or even sure if anyone is interested!!

P.S The Porsche was collected from Arendonk, all the stickers removed and John raced it at that meeting before bringing it back to England under the cover of Morris Marina registration documentation!!
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Just wonder now if Smithy had possibly two Porsche 911s after another. In 1983 Fred Kalkhuis finished 14th overall with a Porsche 911 in the Dutch RX championship while John Smith finished 16th overall with a Porsche 911 in the British RX championship of the same year… And could it be that one Porsche 911 went from John Smith to the late Ron Douglas and then from Ronny to Rob Gibson? Somewhere in the very back of my brain I seem to remember that Rob (or was it Shirley Gibson?) phoned one day to get Ron’s phone number from me to call him about the history of a Porsche, when Ron was living and running a small hotel business for quite some time already at Perranporth in Cornwall (where he died in 1988).

BTW, I am quite certain that Kevin Twomey from Ireland is still in contact with John, Jeeta and "Bean" in Florida.

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Welcome gbot72, be great to here some stories from my favourite rallycross era, I was envolved with my uncles rallycross team back then, the paddocks were fool of characters. My favourite John Smith memory was I think the 1986 GP where he outpaced all the Group B cars to set quickest time in the first heats, outstanding performance.
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My fave was him winning the B Final at Lydden in teh ERC round and then feeling the need to let Matti past in A Final coz he felt too old to carry on defending!

On his day a real gem round Lydden, that Xtrac was always one of the quickest cars round Lydden
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Ok, John Smiths Rallycross Porsche history, in installments, as far as I can remember ( it was a long time ago!!)

Please help out with info if any of the pictures give you clues.

Porsche No 1

Two Wheel Drive, seen in this picture on it's first outing with John at Brands Hatch. Also in the picture is John Greasley and one of his cars, not sure if this is a clue to where Smithy bought the car from.

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John used this Porsche for a while, he binned the Spoiler and changed the colours to what you see in this picture.

I have footage from the Rallycross Grand Prix at Brands ( I think it was 1983 ) where John managed to spear the back of Kieth Ripps Fiesta.



Whilst owning this car John bought the ex Colin Richards Porsche which Colin had just convered to 4 wheel drive, which leads us to Porsche No 2
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John Smith Porsche No 2 seen here at it's first outing at Croft.

Unfortunately it spent most of the weekend on the trailer due to teething problems.



John had some success with this car, regularly competing at Brands and Lydden, but it never had the power it needed to compete with the European Porsches.

I believe he famously beat Seppo Nittymaki in the Final heat of the Internations Cup in 1985 to help secure 3rd place for the UK.
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I think the middle one was 4wd as I remember, I have some footage of John at Lydden and Swindon in 85 on a video. Other Porsches there were Dennis Atkinson and Gibbo

272 jeremey Crush!! Blimey I am that sad!
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John Smith's Porsche No 1 and 2 appeared at the same event one year. I can't quite remember the reason why, probably down to poor reliability, but both cars were taken to the European round at Lydden.

Only one car went through scrutineering but both appeared on the track at some stage during the day. Whilst one was being raced the other was being fixed!! The only visable difference being the Spoiler and the fact 2 wheels were spinning on one car and all 4 on the other..

Here's Porsche No 2, the 4x4 in action at Lydden.

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Any clue why I do associate Rod Chapman with one of these 911s?
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http://www.racehistorie.nl/paul%20fa...0fauchey_m.htm

Pics of the two 911s of André Albers and Paul Fauchey as well as several pics of John Smith during his Ford Escort RS1800 times under the above link.
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John Smith sold Porsche No 1 to an Icelandic racer, but I,m not sure if it stayed in Rallycross.

Porsche No 2 came to a sad end in a startline incident at Brands Hatch. John was involved in a tussle with John Welch off the line, the Porsche ending up catapulting into the Pit wall barrier and being rammed in the side by Mark Rennison in his first outing in the RS200.

The Porsche was too badly damaged. Any useable parts were removed and the shell was cut into pieces and scrapped. This is when Porsche No 3 came along, which has been identified br rx-guru as the ex André Albers car It can be seen in this photo from one of the few outings it had under John's ownership after being converted to 4 wheel drive.

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Jos Sterkens bus in the background I reckon too!!

Brilliant pic

Where the hell is that, Lydden?
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