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Old 29 Aug 2024, 17:48 (Ref:4224307)   #1
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Safety Car. Italian GP

Hope they have a spare S/C for the GP this weekend. Bernd bent the current one, spun off and hit the barriers. Crew okay.
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Old 29 Aug 2024, 18:06 (Ref:4224311)   #2
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I don't think that I'm wrong, but I believe that they always have two safety cars and at least two medical cars for every event. I suppose just for situations such as you describe or vehicle malfunctions.
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Old 29 Aug 2024, 19:00 (Ref:4224320)   #3
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We need a Monza thread. Maybe this thread can be converted over to the Monza race thread, or maybe these posts can be merged into that thread once it's create.

In other Monza news...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...nges/10648945/

With the complete resurfacing of Monza (including I think reworking of all curbs) the drivers feel they have gone too far. Changes that take away the specific challenges of Monza and allowing areas to be run flat and with much heavier riding of curbs to be expected. And... that the drivers were not consulted in the rework of the circuit.

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Old 29 Aug 2024, 22:34 (Ref:4224346)   #4
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Old 29 Aug 2024, 22:45 (Ref:4224347)   #5
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That’s a different situation.

Not that I feel they should be completely listened too either.
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Old 29 Aug 2024, 23:16 (Ref:4224349)   #6
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Drivers and riders and teams complain about a circuit.
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Old 29 Aug 2024, 23:19 (Ref:4224350)   #7
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But anyway - Maylander's SC excursion looked like some form of brake failure to me. I know he showboats from time to time but the way that snapped was very very abrupt.
It looked very much like the spin was deliberate, to take the speed and sting out of the incident.
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Old 29 Aug 2024, 23:58 (Ref:4224354)   #8
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Yeah, that definitely was not a driver issue and issue on the car. They need to just use a GT3 car and add the electronic bits they need, gotta be possible and they can either upgrade the SC speed or at least take some pressure off driver and car. But I'm guessing cost prohibitive and maybe not easy enough to get out of for a safety car
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Old 30 Aug 2024, 00:21 (Ref:4224357)   #9
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I am not sure if the drivers should have been consulted. I would however be interested to understand how the requirements came about for the redesign. In short... what did they think were the key factors in curb design? You would think that somewhere driver's comments would factor in somehow? Maybe they were? Anyone who works in product development can understand how things like this can go either horribly wrong or very much right. I guess we will see in a few short hours if the changes are good or bad!

SC crash looked to be mechanical.

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Old 30 Aug 2024, 00:24 (Ref:4224359)   #10
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Problem with the car I would say, but still very bizarre, not something you expect to see at all
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Yeah, that definitely was not a driver issue and issue on the car. They need to just use a GT3 car and add the electronic bits they need, gotta be possible and they can either upgrade the SC speed or at least take some pressure off driver and car. But I'm guessing cost prohibitive and maybe not easy enough to get out of for a safety car
GT3 cars take time to come up to temperature; see Bathurst 12hr going away from the traditional one lap shootout to a short sessions for half the top ten.

A Safety Car needs to be "on" from the moment it hits the track.

Yeah, he threw it away, but it was during the Thursday test that they do at every event so Bernd knows where the limit is. It was probable to happen at some point.
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Old 31 Aug 2024, 17:23 (Ref:4224587)   #12
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I think that he’d been hoofing around the circuit for a while. It’s quite heavy on brakes, so my guess is that the brake fluid was on a low simmer when he went off.
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so turns out the worst crash of the weekend was the safety car!

to quote a fellow canadian...isnt that ironic?
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so turns out the worst crash of the weekend was the safety car!

to quote a fellow canadian...isnt that ironic?
Nah - Kimi's was worse I reckon but there were a few of them went in at the same spot in a similar fashion - think that the Safety Car started a trend!
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so what is the cause
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Old 12 Sep 2024, 09:25 (Ref:4226235)   #16
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so what is the cause
I think you would find that the new track surface, plus damp conditions played a part in the crash. Also probably going to quick and didn't realise the state of surface. Just my own opinion, as the FIA has not given the reason for it.
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