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Old 5 Jun 2017, 22:01 (Ref:3738889)   #2671
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We'll never know but it doesn't look good for BoP when the worst Cadillac is miles behind the best and still ahead of anything else.
...if only that were true.
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Old 6 Jun 2017, 16:10 (Ref:3739024)   #2672
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The high downforce Dallara is pretty decent. It's run very well in ELMS. The low downforce version appears to be a lemon. It's been said it doesn't feel connected to the road at all.
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The Dallara was fastest on the straits though... and by a strangely high margin too.
I will l just leave those two juxtaposed and let others sort it out.

I will say this: I’d feel a lot more sanguine about eh success of a Penske DPi venture if it was being run by a team with some racing history. A little experience, you know?

My feeling is that AXR was, from the start, a businessman’s team. Born from the wreckage of other efforts with leftover Brumos bits, the team was run like a business by a businessman from Day One. And pretty much had success from Day One as well.

WTR started as a an old racer’s team—Wayne Taylor decided he could drive for himself better than he could listen to other people telling him what to do, so he scraped up some cash and went to the track. Over time the team has reached the same level of professionalism as AXR—and with GM factory guidance, has now become dominant.

You can see why I would worry for the fate of a small-time, enthusiasts’ team like Penske.

As has been mentioned, Grand-Am’s ham-handed emasculation of Porsche after Hurley Heywood’s win in whatever year (2007-8-9? I cannot spell Google) is not going to be forgotten—ever. Roger will make sure he gets a fair fight and he is smart enough to pick the right tool for the job.

My worry is whether IMSA has the courage to invite a player like Roger Penske into the fold. We could be watching “The Penske-IMSA Sports Car Challenge Series” in two or three years—I think that is IMSA’s fear.
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Old 6 Jun 2017, 16:44 (Ref:3739030)   #2673
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I will l just leave those two juxtaposed and let others sort it out.

I will say this: I’d feel a lot more sanguine about eh success of a Penske DPi venture if it was being run by a team with some racing history. A little experience, you know?

My feeling is that AXR was, from the start, a businessman’s team. Born from the wreckage of other efforts with leftover Brumos bits, the team was run like a business by a businessman from Day One. And pretty much had success from Day One as well.

WTR started as a an old racer’s team—Wayne Taylor decided he could drive for himself better than he could listen to other people telling him what to do, so he scraped up some cash and went to the track. Over time the team has reached the same level of professionalism as AXR—and with GM factory guidance, has now become dominant.

You can see why I would worry for the fate of a small-time, enthusiasts’ team like Penske.

As has been mentioned, Grand-Am’s ham-handed emasculation of Porsche after Hurley Heywood’s win in whatever year (2007-8-9? I cannot spell Google) is not going to be forgotten—ever. Roger will make sure he gets a fair fight and he is smart enough to pick the right tool for the job.

My worry is whether IMSA has the courage to invite a player like Roger Penske into the fold. We could be watching “The Penske-IMSA Sports Car Challenge Series” in two or three years—I think that is IMSA’s fear.
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Old 6 Jun 2017, 19:12 (Ref:3739062)   #2674
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I believe that was terrible tongue in cheek statement there.
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I will l just leave those two juxtaposed and let others sort it out.
There is no juxtaposed issue to sort out. The Dallara is extremely fast in a straight line and then gives up all of the time in the corners. It's been said they've stripped so much downforce from it that it feels like the car glides about and isn't connected to the tarmac

The regular (high) downforce kit however is excellent, as shown at Silverstone and Monza.
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Old 7 Jun 2017, 19:58 (Ref:3739327)   #2678
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Doesn't feel like much of a surprise. I wouldn't risk money on them showing up for Petit, myself.
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There is no juxtaposed issue to sort out. The Dallara is extremely fast in a straight line and then gives up all of the time in the corners. It's been said they've stripped so much downforce from it that it feels like the car glides about and isn't connected to the tarmac

The regular (high) downforce kit however is excellent, as shown at Silverstone and Monza.
Yes, the Intersport Racing school of prototype set up - Trim her out and everything else will fall into place... or not.
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Yes, the Intersport Racing school of prototype set up - Trim her out and everything else will fall into place... or not.
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Yes, the Intersport Racing school of prototype set up - Trim her out and everything else will fall into place... or not.
Everything else usually fell out of place..... Except the supena
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But it sure was entertaining and fun to watch, while it lasted.
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Don't recall "trim her out" so much as "Jack up that boost some more, again."

And pieces fell everywhere.
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Don't recall "trim her out" so much as "Jack up that boost some more, again."

And pieces fell everywhere.
Here's one of the better examples of max power, low downforce, fun while it lasts setups:

https://youtu.be/_ZtBah7nP04
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Watching that never gets old. And the Lola was such a pretty car but the best part about that video is not just John driving to the front but it is the commentary going nuts from Calvin and Greg. Because this was a regular occurrence but for some reason they thought it was outstanding in this situation.
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