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Old 20 Jul 2017, 21:32 (Ref:3753177)   #2761
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I think this one was smaller.
I got lost in an article on it earlier and didn't realize how many iterations there were before it got to the track. I believe this one and the one I showed were the same chassis but certainly less bodywork on the black and entirely different "setups".
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Old 20 Jul 2017, 21:41 (Ref:3753180)   #2762
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If Toyota was able to win Daytona with a 4 in line turbo 24 years ago , why Mazda can't do it again?
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Old 20 Jul 2017, 21:52 (Ref:3753181)   #2763
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I think this one was smaller.
Same car, just later on when they compromised and put bigger back tires on it and with a driver too big to fit properly. The original design for the Mk.I was the coolest.

Actually it was supposed to be even lower than that, but it wouldn't even run decently with the intended air intake. Although they took it another direction, it had the same fundamental conceptual flaw as the Chapparal 2H where they overestimated the potential of drag reduction compared to handling.
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Old 20 Jul 2017, 22:09 (Ref:3753184)   #2764
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If Toyota was able to win Daytona with a 4 in line turbo 24 years ago , why Mazda can't do it again?
Because Toyota threw a metric ton of greenbacks to make that engine work. And Mazda's not that rich.
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Same car, just later on when they compromised and put bigger back tires on it and with a driver too big to fit properly. The original design for the Mk.I was the coolest.

Actually it was supposed to be even lower than that, but it wouldn't even run decently with the intended air intake. Although they took it another direction, it had the same fundamental conceptual flaw as the Chapparal 2H where they overestimated the potential of drag reduction compared to handling.
That one looks like an SCCA D sports racer with a big block, which is a big block better than a D sports racer. This was my favorite:


Radiators in or around the wings, crazy slopes, useless rollbar and just craziness everywhere. They're all cool.

So are DPis as we wander way off topic, which easy for me to do.
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 02:56 (Ref:3753223)   #2766
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I got lost in an article on it earlier and didn't realize how many iterations there were before it got to the track. I believe this one and the one I showed were the same chassis but certainly less bodywork on the black and entirely different "setups".
Is that driver missing his legs?
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Is that driver missing his legs?
No, amazingly. Not yet, anyway.
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If Toyota was able to win Daytona with a 4 in line turbo 24 years ago , why Mazda can't do it again?
Money, and the thing wasn't wound to an inch of its life the entire duration of the event.
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No, but he needed a third arm to have any hope of cornering properly.
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I don't know what will they do with the tube, the cockpit is so wide compared with the Ligier and Oreca, it looks like P3 instead a P2.
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They don't have to do anything for the Mazda, just have more allowed horsepower or a less draggy mandated aero package than the other cars.
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They don't have to do anything for the Mazda, just have more allowed horsepower or a less draggy mandated aero package than the other cars.
I am not sure about the weight (I hear the Riley P2 was 60 kg overweight) but I don't think the Mazda needs much help with aero. The car had s been extremely fast. All it lacks is low-end power and reliability ... and a decent crew.
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At minimum it needs more cooling than the current package allows, seems like every report says cooling, cooling, cooling for reliability. I'm sure the base weight is a struggle if the Riley is over by that much, unless they are much better at lighter body work for Mazda. How much of that base chassis can be modified without using the joker update is the big thing though.
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Probably doesn't mean too much for the Mazda DPI, since DPI isn't an ACO spec formula and the DPIs are still under draft homologation. Which of course means that changes for both durability and performance can be made. The Mazda was also showing at least decent pace the past few races. Not earth shattering but way better than early in the season and they did get podiums by being fast and reliable enough to take advantage of attrition.

The guys who probably are pretty screwed are the guys who run the base Riley. That car, simply put, needs a massive update to get it anywhere near what the base Oreca and Ligier can do. But when you consider that only two Rileys have raced (one by Ben Keating at LM and the other by VFR/SOD in IMSA), I'd have to say that the writing is on the wall for the basic Riley Mk30.
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