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Old 24 Jul 2017, 15:01 (Ref:3753961)   #2791
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ESM is a good team with bad luck. You don't win the 36 hours of Florida if you're a bad team.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 15:10 (Ref:3753965)   #2792
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ESM won Daytona and Sebring last year overall.

I think that pipo derani in a ESM ligier won 2016 daytona and sebring
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 16:00 (Ref:3753978)   #2793
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I think that pipo derani in a ESM ligier won 2016 daytona and sebring
Ha! Well, the greatest drivers won't win without a great car these days and yada, yada, yada.

ESM had always been as strong as their weakest links, which at times, were Sharp and Brown. They've also had some utter disasters for whatever reason.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 16:49 (Ref:3753988)   #2794
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Ha! Well, the greatest drivers won't win without a great car these days and yada, yada, yada.

ESM had always been as strong as their weakest links, which at times, were Sharp and Brown. They've also had some utter disasters for whatever reason.
Back when they were in GTLM in a Ferrari 458. Risi usually beat them. I do miss ESM though. I still feel like they are a GT team first and foremost who are just running prototypes right now. Feel that way about the Whelen car too.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 17:05 (Ref:3753997)   #2795
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Jacques Nicolet (Onroak Automotive) says there are talks with other manufacturers to make a DPI.
The product is attractive and attracts manufacturers. The market is huge for them. The global cocktail makes it work. The balance between cars is done acutely and seriously. Depending on LMP2 chassis allows manufacturers to make high-level competition at a reasonable cost. The category is a promising future.

About to ESM Nissan, the cars were made in a very short time.
This is a year of adjustment. Luckily IMSA leaves all type of components open all year round. The approach is very clever as it allows you to adjust everything.

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/ent...-p3-js-p4-dpi/
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 18:29 (Ref:3754025)   #2796
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Well, I have hoped since the team was announced that ESM would operate on the Highcroft level.

I have liked the team as a sort of poor relation of Highcroft (a team I held in exceedingly high regard) and I try not to expect too much ... but they are not short of funds, they are just short of results.

I admire them for stepping up to P2 when the new series formed (which sort of forced IMSA to include P2s with DPs.)

Still, I wish they'd do better. That's all.
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Very curious. Are they shaking down a new Multimatic? If I may add to the conjecture in the article, I wonder if they're switching to Oreca-Gibson?

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Well I'm thinking first thing they'd be doing is beating the bushes for a new sponsor with the Visit Flatlandia sponsorship gone. Doubt there's much they could do besides find a John Pew to buy a new chassis for them, otherwise it's hope they can get some help from the Joest guys improving the Mazda and parts/improvements moving on to them as well.
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Old 24 Jul 2017, 19:49 (Ref:3754051)   #2799
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Very curious. Are they shaking down a new Multimatic? If I may add to the conjecture in the article, I wonder if they're switching to Oreca-Gibson?

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Nobody can blame them to switch to another car, the Riley is plain uncompetitive. I would like to see them moving to a Dallara instead a Cadillac, just to create more diversity,

About the Riley, if Joest can't make improvements on the Mazda that could be transfered to the Riley, that chassis will be dead.
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Nobody can blame them to switch to another car, the Riley is plain uncompetitive. I would like to see them moving to a Dallara instead a Cadillac, just to create more diversity,

About the Riley, if Joest can't make improvements on the Mazda that could be transfered to the Riley, that chassis will be dead.
These are expected results when you entrust for carbon tub based prototypes supplier a company that barely has experience in that field....

multimatic too in last years basically kept on producing parts projected by someone else (lola).
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Very curious. Are they shaking down a new Multimatic? If I may add to the conjecture in the article, I wonder if they're switching to Oreca-Gibson?

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Could even be a Ligier. Prepping for a new DPi manufacturer?
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These are expected results when you entrust for carbon tub based prototypes supplier a company that barely has experience in that field....

multimatic too in last years basically kept on producing parts projected by someone else (lola).
With such failure from Multimatic/Riley, ACO/IMSA should do allow other P2 chassis providers that has been let aside. Ginetta, Dome, even Norma why not. Or they should buy the design of another chassis to take as a base for a new car, as the Honda.

Something must be done, or we will have the next three years with just three chassises.
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Could even be a Ligier. Prepping for a new DPi manufacturer?
Wasn't there recently a quote form Onroak about the possibility of a new DPi? EDIT---Right, post 2795 above.

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Visit Florida Racing boss Troy Flis has made no secret about the fact that he isn’t happy with the current Riley Mk30 LMP2 chassis. VFR originally attempted to secure a Mazda RT24-P DPi but after the deal fell through they were left with the standard Riley Gibson package.

The season started well with a strong podium finish at Daytona, but it has all been downhill from their. The car was withdrawn from Long Beach after accident damage sustained in practice couldn’t be repaired, and the team hasn’t recovered since then.

Not surprisingly, the team has already started making plans for next season. NASportsCar reports that the team is scheduled to shakedown a “new car” on August 1st, with no other details.

What options do VFR have? A Cadillac DPi-V.R is not out of the question. GM will be looking to strengthen their grip on the IMSA field as Joest and Penske enter next year. If they have any spare chassis ready, VFR would be a good 4th GM team. If not a Cadillac just yet, then it could be a Dallara P217 LMP2 chassis, in preparation for a Cadillac in 2018.

If they are not moving to a DPi, there is also a possibility they could be testing an Oreca or Ligier chassis. The French chassis have proved far superior to the Riley, so could provide a significant boost up the grid. Onroak have hinted at being involved with another manufacturer, and IMSA have repeatedly thrown in comments about another unnamed manufacturer. Are VFR involved with someone new?*

What is not likely, are Mazda and Acura DPi cars. The Mazda is due to undergo significant development in the hands of Multimatic and Joest, whilst the Acura will be in the safe hands of Roger Penske and his team.

If the team are already scheduling a shakedown of the car, then they must have plans to run it soon. Whatever they have will most likely run the rest of the IMSA season. The next event is Road America, August 6th. Will the new car be ready by then? Watch for the entry lists to be published.

TAGS DPi Featured Riley Speculation VFR
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pardon my excessive nit-pickery. Remember ... you invited it.

“GM will be looking to strengthen their grip” I’d say “GM will be looking to strengthen its grip .... ” GM is singular, it is one company.

“as Joest and Penske enter next year. If they have any spare chassis ready, VFR would be a good 4th GM team.”

Here is why----“they” means GM ... but the direct antecedent would be “Joest and Penske.” So grammatically it is incorrect (nit-picky little BS, please pardon me.) Your subject jumps from “GM” to “Joest and Penske” and back to “GM” in two sentences which might be confusing to some.

Better might be, “What options does VFR have? A Cadillac DPi-V.R is not out of the question. GM will be looking to strengthen its grip on the IMSA field as Joest and Penske enter next year. If GM has any spare chassis ready, VFR would be a good 4th GM team.”

Then here ... “If they are not moving to a DPi, there is also a possibility they could be testing an Oreca or Ligier chassis.”

“They" is kind of vague, considering how many “they"s there have been ... and in the paragraph before, you use “it” ... I understand, “it” means “the car VFR chooses” but you don’t want to leave too many indefinite pronouns ((?) Is that a thing?) floating around.

I’d start with ““If VFR is not moving to a DPi, there is also a possibility the team could be testing an Oreca or Ligier chassis.”

There is a lot of leeway with grammar ... some copy-editors get all panicky about “A team is a unit—it is never ‘they’” while some are cool with the imprecision of spoken English. But it is always good to have number agree—whether you decide GM and Onraok are “it” or “they,” stay consistent, and keep all the pronouns the same—and make sure every time you use “they” people know immediately what you are talking about.

Another nit-pick:

“What is not likely, are Mazda and Acura DPi cars.”

“What is not likely is either a Mazda or Acura DPi car.” Or if you insist, “What are not likely, are Mazda or Acura DPi cars.”

What I’d say, (if I were creative enough to come up with it in the first place) might be “What is not likely is either a Mazda or an Acura Dpi.”
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