Bell's Banter 2021

[grantp]

Governments will take the opportunity to clear the decks for faster adoption of "Green" solutions. Motorsport is an easy target. Those enthusiasts that can afford it at the most costly levels may well be involved with running businesses that have to be seen to be "going green" so perhaps will not complain too much in public.

At the Pro end of the market the manufacturers are already heading rapidly along a road map that abandons traditional fossil power as quickly as possible. It seems that even America is on that track.

Also, unless huge investments are made soon in charging infrastructure, the "lockdown" mindset will be useful to re-train people to stay at home once they have bought their new EV because it is not safe to go out from a "health" Point of View rather than because they will not be able to go far without spending hours waiting for a charger to become available.

The blame for lack of use of an expensive investment can thus be placed squarely at the door of whatever rapidly mutating diseases take over from those we have been living alongside in the fossil era.

[S griffin]

We'll see what the government do, they have to be seen doing the right thing. Hopefully though motorsport can sort out the green issues themselves. There have been plenty of alternate fuels that are already in existence like biofuel, so just need to look into those more

Thing is motorsport is heading in the right direction with regards to reducing it's carbon footprint. The progress it has made in the last 10-15 years has been gradual, but it's getting there.

The problem is the unfortunate lockdowns have also reduced carbon emissions and now more people might be working at home for longer and keep emissions down after all this is over. And with electric cars on the rise, I expect to see more company cars run on electric in time. You have to say this lockdown has helped make people realise they can reduce their carbon footprint. You wouldn't have thought so, but it has

[Mike Harte]

What Johnson cannot afford (he is basically the government (or is it Carrie Symonds? ) - everybody else has to follow his lead) is to open up the country too early and then have to re-introduce another tranche of tightening of the rules if the infection rates go up again.

One only has to look at the Isle of Man. They opened up just a few weeks ago, but now they are going back into some form of lockdown as it is going pear-shape now.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

What Johnson cannot afford (he is basically the government (or is it Carrie Symonds? ) - everybody else has to follow his lead) is to open up the country too early and then have to re-introduce another tranche of tightening of the rules if the infection rates go up again.

One only has to look at the Isle of Man. They opened up just a few weeks ago, but now they are going back into some form of lockdown as it is going pear-shape now.

I might have missed something - but wasn't there talk a few weeks ago that lifting of the restrictions would be data-led?

IMHO, that is absolutely the right thing to do - but now I'm hearing it is all date-orientated in the roadmap?

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by S griffin

We'll see what the government do, they have to be seen doing the right thing. Hopefully though motorsport can sort out the green issues themselves. There have been plenty of alternate fuels that are already in existence like biofuel, so just need to look into those more

Thing is motorsport is heading in the right direction with regards to reducing it's carbon footprint. The progress it has made in the last 10-15 years has been gradual, but it's getting there.

The problem is the unfortunate lockdowns have also reduced carbon emissions and now more people might be working at home for longer and keep emissions down after all this is over. And with electric cars on the rise, I expect to see more company cars run on electric in time. You have to say this lockdown has helped make people realise they can reduce their carbon footprint. You wouldn't have thought so, but it has

The reduction of flights , transport & road traffic during lockdown has had no effect whatsoever on the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere , which has continued its slight rise through the year , proving that the vast majority of it comes from natural causes & the human contribution is so small as to be insignificant .
Also the amount of other emissions has not changed because traffic is only a very small part of the totals . https://airqualitynews.com/2020/09/0...n-in-scotland/

But in Germany ,https://notrickszone.com/2020/12/25/...had-no-impact/,
when a Transport minister did an online broadcast saying that a ban on diesels in cities was no longer being considered because the lockdown proved that they were not the cause of air pollution , his news report was removed & hidden in under 1 day because the Greens do not want people to know the truth.

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

The reduction of flights , transport & road traffic during lockdown has had no effect whatsoever on the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere , which has continued its slight rise through the year , proving that the vast majority of it comes from natural causes & the human contribution is so small as to be insignificant .
Also the amount of other emissions has not changed because traffic is only a very small part of the totals . https://airqualitynews.com/2020/09/0...n-in-scotland/

But in Germany ,https://notrickszone.com/2020/12/25/...had-no-impact/,
when a Transport minister did an online broadcast saying that a ban on diesels in cities was no longer being considered because the lockdown proved that they were not the cause of air pollution , his news report was removed & hidden in under 1 day because the Greens do not want people to know the truth.

We've had 20km/h speed limit reductions imposed on us temporarily this morning in this area because of a supposed reduction in air quality. This is being blamed on Saharan sand, wood burners & traffic so speed reduction won't make much difference to that lot!

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I might have missed something - but wasn't there talk a few weeks ago that lifting of the restrictions would be data-led?

IMHO, that is absolutely the right thing to do - but now I'm hearing it is all date-orientated in the roadmap?

That is what they keep telling us, but the reality is that it is Boris' poll rating that drives everything, up until the moment that he is forced to drastic action.

You only have to listen carefully to statements put out or explanations given during press briefings that the "experts" are very measured in just how much they actually agree with the decisions. I honestly believe that on most occasions that they would have wished to have moved earlier, and possibly more severely.

[VIVA GT]

All of the above makes me realise just how much mis-information is being fed to (or pushed) at us. But despite all of that, a lot of people are taking it all in without question...

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

We've had 20km/h speed limit reductions imposed on us temporarily this morning in this area because of a supposed reduction in air quality. This is being blamed on Saharan sand, wood burners & traffic so speed reduction won't make much difference to that lot!

Official UK Government data shows that over the last 50 years air quality has improved by 75% . https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...air-pollutants
Possibly a large amount of that is reduction of coal fires . But vehicles have cleaned up by huge amounts so that in most cases the air going into the engine is actually not as clean as the air coming out of the exhaust .

But of course the facts are not convenient for politicians looking for excuses to increase taxes on everybody , and motorists are the easiest target .

[S griffin]

I just wish people stuck to reliable sources and realised that some things on the internet should be taken with a pinch of salt. It’s no good falling for misinformation

[GORDON STREETER]

All the "newer" diesel vehicles that I work on mostly show zero emissions on the MOT test, and this is without the VW trick ecu !
I blame all the farting cows

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

All the "newer" diesel vehicles that I work on mostly show zero emissions on the MOT test, and this is without the VW trick ecu !

I once received an advisory on an MOT for a diesel car - emissions too clean to register!

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I blame all the farting cows

Me too! Even the swiss ones. They should have a catalytic converter fitted…

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

All the "newer" diesel vehicles that I work on mostly show zero emissions on the MOT test, and this is without the VW trick ecu !
I blame all the farting cows

But the cows are all inside at this time of year so I can't blame them!

[Gerard C]

What do you think, John, are they so polite they dont fart inside the house? Like you and me! Or may be they have toilets with filters…