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Old 25 Sep 2001, 15:30 (Ref:151026)   #1
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Sergio Rinland going to Arrows.......

Sergio Rinland will be working at Arrows from now on, the 49 year old Argentinian designed this years Sauber.(taken from a dutch newspaper).

Well, if Rinland can get some of his ideas into the A23(wich is already under development by Nicolo Petrucci, ex Ferrari) Arrows probably has a very good(Cosworth powered) car next year......
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Old 25 Sep 2001, 15:33 (Ref:151027)   #2
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Sergio Rinland, the man behind this season's sensational Sauber C20 has reportedly signed a deal with the Arrows team.

Rinland, 49, parted company with the Sauber team at the start of the 2001 season under circumstances which remain unexplained. The Argentine designed the C20 which has been driven by Nick Heidfeld and Kimi Räikkönen to brand new heights as the Swiss team sits fourth in the constructors' championship with 20 points - its best ever performance.

Rinland has curiously spent most of 2001 without a job, despite putting together one of the better cars on the grid. However, that is set to change this weekend as the Arrows team are expected to formally announce that Rinland will become their new Technical Director.

Rinland has worked in Formula One for almost twenty years including time spent at Brabham, Williams and Benetton and even a brief sejour in America to design an Indycar in the mid 90s.
(f1racing.net)
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Old 25 Sep 2001, 18:08 (Ref:151094)   #3
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Walkinshaw finally seems to be assembling the team he has threatened to gather. Arrows flattered with the SuperTech last year. The combo of Rinland, Cosworth and Verstappen may lead to some surprises in 2002. Now, if they sign Frentzen, they're set.
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Old 25 Sep 2001, 22:01 (Ref:151263)   #4
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Yes, this is interesting news indeed. Poor Jacques... even the arrows will be faster than the BAR
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Old 26 Sep 2001, 00:18 (Ref:151321)   #5
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A Cosworth engine and Jos Verstappen are hardly going to be the keys to success for Arrows...
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A Cosworth engine and Jos Verstappen are hardly going to be the keys to success for Arrows...

a Factory Cosworth(not that crappy engine Minardi uses), The designer that designed this years Sauber C20(plus an ex Ferrari employee), AND the driver with the most overtaking manouvres in f1 this and last year.

You'd wish that Minardi had those......
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Old 26 Sep 2001, 01:53 (Ref:151357)   #7
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You'd wish that Minardi had those......
I certainly was (well, Rinland at least!)

But Arrows are looking good for next year. They'll have a very talented designer, they'll have the same spec. Cosworth that Jaguar use and they'll have Jos the Boss, who seems to be maturing this year.

Things look good for Arrows in 2002.
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a Factory Cosworth(not that crappy engine Minardi uses), The designer that designed this years Sauber C20(plus an ex Ferrari employee), AND the driver with the most overtaking manouvres in f1 this and last year.

You'd wish that Minardi had those......
Certainly, but not with a team boss as unscrupulous as Mr. Walkinshaw...

I don't think Jos has matured this year - indeed, he seems to have lost the plot a little. There has been something distinctly lacking from his performances this season.

The speculation will continue until March 2002 - when Arrows, Jaguar, Minardi, Prost and Toyota begin their scrap. It's going to be biiiiiig...
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Thumbs up for Sergio. He really desrved it, he is a great designer, wellk not as good as Mr. Newey, but he knows how to make a car work. I know him a bit more than most of you because he has been invited as a commentator to several GP this years at the network which broadcasts the F1 in my country (PSN). He may do some good changes in that arrows car for the 2002 season, we'll just have to wait.
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Thumbs up for Sergio. He really desrved it, he is a great designer, wellk not as good as Mr. Newey, but he knows how to make a car work. I know him a bit more than most of you because he has been invited as a commentator to several GP this years at the network which broadcasts the F1 in my country (PSN). He may do some good changes in that arrows car for the 2002 season, we'll just have to wait.
In addition, I don't like Sergio as commentator, but he is so talented as a designer...
My prayers were listened... I will not suffer his spanish, so often
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a Factory Cosworth(not that crappy engine Minardi uses), The designer that designed this years Sauber C20(plus an ex Ferrari employee), AND the driver with the most overtaking manouvres in f1 this and last year.

You'd wish that Minardi had those......
Sergio Rinland maybe. Though I would still have been happier with Gustav Brunner. Plus I think his work has been flattered by having two of the best drivers in F1 in his cars.

That 'factory' Cosworth engine, I am sure will still be slightly crappy, as u so eloquently put it steve. Plus I still cannot believe you are going to get equal treatment from Jaguar.

And Jos Verstappen? No thank you. I would rather have someone who can drive a mature practice session, followed by a quick qualifying, and a solid, sensible performance in the race on properly filled fuel tanks. Don't you wish Arrows had that?
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I would rather have ... properly filled fuel tanks. Don't you wish Arrows had that?
As Arrows are building their new car around the (dummy version of the) Cosworth engine, I guess next year's car will have a proper fuel tank.
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People always talk about Arrows running low fuel and simply forget the have 50-60 bhp less (that even's thing up)

and Alesi and Raikkonen where also on a 2 stop strategy in Monza, stil Jos managed to stay ahead for a fair amout of laps......
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MIchael Schumacher -2
Rubens Barichello -2
Mika Hakkinen -9
David Coulthard +7
Ralf Schumacher -21
Juan Montoya +1
Giancarlo Fisichella +35
Jenson Button +39
Olivier Panis -3
Jaques Villeneuve +3
Heinz Harald Frentzen/Ricardo Zonta/Jean Alesi -6
Jarno Trulli 0
Jos Verstappen +73
Enrique Bernoldi +22
Nick Heidfeld -10
Kimi Raikkonen +3
Eddie Irvine +3
Luciano Burti/Pedro de la Rosa -1
Tarso Marques +30
Fernando Alonso +10
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