BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 43

Evantra · 14 Nov 2019, 21:38 (Ref:3940653)

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Originally Posted by TR4racer

I hear that the current TCR Europe champion driver is in talks.....

That's surprising, as I remember him saying how much better the TCR regs are over the BTCC. He'll be wanting a WTCR seat I'm sure, but obviously that's a lot easier said than done!

As for the others, Lloyd wants to be back in TCR Europe (though I suppose he'll be looking at BTCC deals too) and Kent isn't really on the BTCC level yet.

touring fan01 · 14 Nov 2019, 23:15 (Ref:3940663)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

The official Supercars website states Ash Sutton is still in frame for Walkinshaw Andretti United seat. If it's true, I can imagine this is his top priority. I have a feeling he won't be in BTCC. If not Supercars maybe TCR Europe? Although would be a shame if he doesn't return to BTCC next year.

sutton, jordan and chilton all staying in btcc next year. mark my words.

Matt K · 15 Nov 2019, 08:27 (Ref:3940688)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

sutton, jordan and chilton all staying in btcc next year. mark my words.

We'll see in a few months time

HopAlong · 15 Nov 2019, 09:23 (Ref:3940695)

I wouldn't read too much into the low rent photoshop as to what the car will look like. These art style ones always have body parts, wings and wheels at wrong angles, sizes and shapes. Just compare the MG, Audi S3, Insignia, Subaru, Mercedes and the Moffat Infiniti launch renders to the actual cars. Even the 3d renders of the BMW 330 and Corolla are substantially different to the real cars, less so in the Toyota's case.

crmalcolm · 15 Nov 2019, 10:10 (Ref:3940701)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

sutton, jordan and chilton all staying in btcc next year. mark my words.

Marked

Team	Car	Driver	Notes

Confirmed Entries
Excelr8	Hyundai i30	Smith ?	Confirmed in press release - want to retain driver lineup
Excelr8	Hyundai i30	Osborne ?	Confirmed in press release - want to retain driver lineup
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Cammish	2yr contract confirmed in press release
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Neal	Confirmed as driver pairing in press release
WSR	BMW 330i	Oliphant	Reported as continuing next year with the team
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	Plato	Talked about engine / chassis developments for 2020 in interview
Speedworks	Toyota Corolla	Ingram	Confirmed Ginsters backing for 2020 in article
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Moffat	selling Merc+TBL
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Rowbottom	Confirmed entry in Facebook post
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Morgan	Brands Hatch summary confirms 2020 return
HARD	VW CC	Goff	On BTCC.net (and others)

Likely Entries
HMS Racing	Alfa Giulietta	Austin	Hold TBL - have been testing
WSR	BMW 330i	???	???
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	Smiley ?	New cars for 2019
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	???	New cars for 2019
HARD	VW CC	Thompson	Claims to have exciting 2020 news on social media soon
HARD	VW CC	Coates	Gilham #tagging?
HARD	VW CC	???	???

Possible Entries
BMR	???	???	State they are committed to BTCC future
BMR	???	???	State they are committed to BTCC future
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
Team Parker	BMW ?	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	TBL on loan for 2019
???	MB A-Class	???	TBL+Car on sale from Laser Tools
???	Jag ?	Crees	Rumoured by Crees in a Facebook interview
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Sutton	Sutton tested car (BMR leaving?)
WSR	BMW 330i	Jordan	Lost Pirtek sponsorship, says he wants to stay in the BTCC, but only with WSR
Maximum Motorsport	???	???	Lines evaluated a PMR car, and wants to run a young driver in BTCC
???	???	Chilton	Has been critical of the Focus in the press

Entries with doubt
???	???	Shedden	Speculation about wanting a return
???	???	M.Jackson	Linked to half of the teams on the grid
???	???	Blundell	Stated that he is undecided about a 2020 return
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
Simpson Racing	Honda Civic	Simpson	Rumoured to have vocalised a withdrawal
???	MG6	???	Excelr8 switched to Hyundai
???	MG6	???	Excelr8 switched to Hyundai

Words Marked
???	???	Sutton	touring fan01
???	???	Jordan	touring fan01
???	???	Chilton	touring fan01
???	???	Files	TR4racer
???	Honda Civic	Boardley	Pickles
???	BMW 330i	Collard	Alfisti

I might not include the 'Words Marked' in future table updates, but at the moment it feels right when we have assertions that drivers/cars will appear, but there is no formal announcement.
Hopefully it recognises where there is knowledge amongst the posters here, and allows the rest of us to identify reliable sources.

el_cat · 15 Nov 2019, 11:36 (Ref:3940717)

Any realistic prospect for either of Matt Neal’s boys to step up into the BTCC? Although it doesn’t count for that much, Henry did win the championship he was entered in 2019 so career-progression wise there isn’t really much else for him to go to?

A similar question could be posed around James Turkington

Evantra · 15 Nov 2019, 14:33 (Ref:3940758)

Hopefully we should see the Hyundais in February.

“Having the chassis and with work already underway in preparing them, we’re hoping it won’t be a last-minute thing. We don’t have the resources of a team like West Surrey Racing or Team Dynamics, but we’ve already made a good start. We’re aiming for two complete cars up and running by mid-February, with a full testing programme in time for March.”

old man · 15 Nov 2019, 14:40 (Ref:3940761)

[QUOTE=crmalcolm;3940370]In August,
[URL="

And whilst we're on the subject of sponsorship on a 'manufacturer' entry. Let's not forget that the biggest advertising space on the BMW entry is given to:
GardX - an independent company owned by the Coutin family and based in Hampshire.
[/QUOTE]

Actually it is BMW Protect X, not GardX, may be the same product but was GardX when Sam Tordoff drove for the team I think. JCT600 dropped BMW as a sales brand, still do service though, just done my Z4

crmalcolm · 15 Nov 2019, 15:31 (Ref:3940769)

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Originally Posted by old man

Actually it is BMW Protect X, not GardX, may be the same product but was GardX when Sam Tordoff drove for the team I think. JCT600 dropped BMW as a sales brand, still do service though, just done my Z4

Yes, the space is given to the BMW branded product, but I was referring to the company that pays for that space - clarifying that it is a 3rd party sponsor.

Alfisti · 15 Nov 2019, 17:28 (Ref:3940796)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

sutton, jordan and chilton all staying in btcc next year. mark my words.

Sonic has signed a deal I hear, the other two I can well believe will be back.

VIVA GT · 15 Nov 2019, 17:38 (Ref:3940798)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Sonic has signed a deal I hear, the other two I can well believe will be back.

Hmm, I wonder who with? He didn't do as well as I expected with the Focus this year, mind you, that may have not been the car's fault. Michael Caine made him look a bit lacklustre in the final round didn't he?

porsche962fan · 15 Nov 2019, 19:19 (Ref:3940814)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

jordan

didn't he say multiple times it will be with WSR or not at all ?

cos if that's the case it's pretty certain that WSR will have same lineup again

Alfisti · 15 Nov 2019, 20:51 (Ref:3940836)

Uh huh. He may have a cash cow lined up.

And I seriously think Mr A Sutton and Mr A Moffat will be sharing lots of notes together. Car setup notes that is

billy bleach · 16 Nov 2019, 06:02 (Ref:3940872)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Hmm, I wonder who with? He didn't do as well as I expected with the Focus this year, mind you, that may have not been the car's fault. Michael Caine made him look a bit lacklustre in the final round didn't he?

Norlin replacing Smiley

Johno.UK · 16 Nov 2019, 09:35 (Ref:3940895)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

didn't he say multiple times it will be with WSR or not at all ?

I don't recall him being that specific but he definitely said he would only be interested in driving for a team that could deliver the championship. That's not a big list.

porsche962fan · 16 Nov 2019, 11:33 (Ref:3940906)

he did say in on TTT after the final round

WSR or bust

crmalcolm · 16 Nov 2019, 12:15 (Ref:3940913)

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Originally Posted by Johno.UK

I don't recall him being that specific but he definitely said he would only be interested in driving for a team that could deliver the championship. That's not a big list.

In his article after brands, he wrote:

'We’re working with BMW to sort something for 2020. I haven’t spoken to any other teams so if I’m on the grid next year it’ll only be with BMW.'

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/modern/2019/10/andrew-jordan-to-lose-it-by-just-two-points-is-painful-but-you-cant-dwell-on-it/

Alfisti · 16 Nov 2019, 12:38 (Ref:3940918)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

Norlin replacing Smiley

That may be a very sound call. Bert just missed a championship. Why? His no. 2 driver wasn't a patch on Shauns. Bert needs two very good drivers, and Smiley is a nice chap and not bad but is not quite there. In my opinion anyways.

Evantra · 16 Nov 2019, 13:06 (Ref:3940926)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

That may be a very sound call. Bert just missed a championship. Why? His no. 2 driver wasn't a patch on Shauns. Bert needs two very good drivers, and Smiley is a nice chap and not bad but is not quite there. In my opinion anyways.

Have to disagree. Smiley was a consistent top ten runner. Has the pace to run with Cook but always seems to be caught up in incidents.

Given his links with Bert, I would be very, very surprised if Smiley was replaced.

mj088 · 16 Nov 2019, 17:28 (Ref:3940951)

For what it's worth, (although I don't think she's good enough) Jade is specifically offering Btcc sponsorship packages for 2020 on her website (I. E not clio cup and not just sponsorship opportunities available) .

Evantra · 16 Nov 2019, 17:34 (Ref:3940952)

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Originally Posted by mj088

For what it's worth, (although I don't think she's good enough) Jade is specifically offering Btcc sponsorship packages for 2020 on her website (I. E not clio cup and not just sponsorship opportunities available) .

She couldn't get a whole 9 round season of Clios this year, so I struggle to see her having enough for the BTCC. Agree with you, she's not good enough yet either.

Pickles · 16 Nov 2019, 17:45 (Ref:3940954)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Given his links with Bert, I would be very, very surprised if Smiley was replaced.

Agreed. Unless Bert now has less of a decision in drivers now that Dudman is on board.

RS67 · 16 Nov 2019, 19:33 (Ref:3940964)

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Originally Posted by mj088

For what it's worth, (although I don't think she's good enough) Jade is specifically offering Btcc sponsorship packages for 2020 on her website (I. E not clio cup and not just sponsorship opportunities available) .

Why would she want sponsorship for Clio Cup?
Spending their money on BTCC, rather than other championships may actually be a better proposition for sponsors.

mj088 · 16 Nov 2019, 19:42 (Ref:3940967)

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Originally Posted by RS67

Why would she want sponsorship for Clio Cup?
Spending their money on BTCC, rather than other championships may actually be a better proposition for sponsors.

Sorry I thought this thread was to post where we had seen anything suggesting drivers were in the process of securing 2020 Btcc drives.
My reference to not clio cup was purely to stop people saying "probably for clios"

Johno.UK · 16 Nov 2019, 20:09 (Ref:3940972)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

She couldn't get a whole 9 round season of Clios this year, so I struggle to see her having enough for the BTCC. Agree with you, she's not good enough yet either.

Since when has being "good enough" a consideration for a BTCC drive? If you've got the budget and the license that's enough.

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