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Old 28 Feb 2007, 18:52 (Ref:1853982)   #51
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Allen can you mail me the page item
ive been talking at length with the current car owner partly due to common interests of cars parts etc and also aiding him with more car info for his car as i have emailed to you this week some comments that may help you with yr quests
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Old 28 Feb 2007, 18:56 (Ref:1853985)   #52
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Old 1 Mar 2007, 08:55 (Ref:1854401)   #53
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Thanks Allen interesting info

Dan i did find 2 fotos of Edwards T296 in the 77 AS mags plus 1 in the Portuguese racing webpages
sadly none of em super pics but they are useful
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 15:28 (Ref:1896429)   #54
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Lola 290 HU4: I have seen this car racing in Mugello at the 1 Historic Festival last month.
I know the history:
1972 first owner, Bonnier who probably sold it to an italian unknown driver (probably Facetti);
1974 the car was owned by Mr Sergio Mingotti
1976 the car was owned by Mr Bono (Sicily)
then Bono sold, on 1978, the car to Mr. Paganucci who fitted the Tecno 3.0 Flat 12 engine. Paganucci ran in Italian Hillclimbs between 1979-1987.
Paganucci sold to Giancarlo Ferri in 1988.
Giancarlo Feri sold to Lorenzo Prandina on 1999; Lorenzo is the actual owner and restored the car with the Tecno engine.
An extensive article was published on "AutoItalia" Magazine, issue 128, February 2007.
For more information see:
http://www.lolaheritage.co.uk/scrapbook/017/017.htm
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 16:13 (Ref:1896471)   #55
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1972 first owner, Bonnier who probably sold it to an italian unknown driver (probably Facetti); I do not think so Facetti i think had no 7 car but i have also heard of a car in italy no 15 purporting to be the abarth Osella Facetti car so is it possible to talk with the owners of this car Mr Mignotti or Bono to see what info they can provide?
1974 the car was owned by Mr Sergio Mingotti
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 16:49 (Ref:1896504)   #56
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Dear Driftwood,

I spoke with Lorenzo Prandina and he said me that Mongotti, Bona and Paganucci died all (!).

Mr Prandina is investigating about the first possible driver. You can contact directly Lorenzo at: l.prandina@vigilio.it
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 17:01 (Ref:1896510)   #57
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This is the wonderful Tecno Engine of the Lola 290 Hu4 today:

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Old 20 Apr 2007, 17:03 (Ref:1896512)   #58
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I have communicated with Lorenzo when i first saw the car on lola site
La sono il carlo?
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 17:28 (Ref:1896534)   #59
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My name is Carlo: do you know me?
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Old 20 Apr 2007, 17:32 (Ref:1896539)   #60
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sì parliamo molte volte via da riveste l'invio invia per posta per la fare sorride
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Old 2 Nov 2007, 10:26 (Ref:2057594)   #61
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I build up a list about LOLA T290 raced in 1972 with chassic numers at: http://www.racecar-collection.com/T290-history.jsp

Informations are missing about some cars:

HU 004, may be the car was raced by Giorgio Danieli in Vallelunga 23.4.1972?

HU 007 was sold to Mr. Osella at 5.5.1972, who raced this car in 1972?

HU 012, is this the car Antonio Zadra drove at Targa Florio 21.5.72?

HU 016, no information from 1972!!

There are more questions, I hope you have a lot of anwers .....

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If it's not too late, can we go back to Wolfgang's original questions?

Giorgio Danielli's car at Vallelunga was said by Autosport to be brand new so it could be HU12 or HU16. Its livery was identical to Antonio Zadra's car which is recorded as HU8 so it's possible the two cars were actually bought together so Danielli's is a candidate for HU7.

Where does the information come from that HU7 was sold to Osella on 5 May 1972? Osella built the T290-Abarth that Hezemans was due to race at Vallelunga on 23 April but he drove the works Abarth instead and Carlo Facetti drove the T290-Abarth. This T290 was then sold by Osella to Antonio Nicodemi who raced it at the Osterriechring in June. Can we be sure this car was HU7?

I would have thought Zadra's car at the Targa would be the same HU8 he is recorded as driving elsewhere. However, he crashed heavily in practice at Vallelunga so it's possible he had to borrow another car until HU8 was repaired. If that's true, then the similarity between his Targa Florio car and Danielli's car may be relevant.

Like you, I have nothing at all on HU16. Wolfgang, have you found out anything new on this car since you last posted?

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Old 2 Nov 2007, 14:30 (Ref:2057858)   #62
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i think HU7 is carlo facetti car
need to check race dates v delivery dates
how do u know osella sold lola abarth car to Nicodemi- he cannot recall his car number or who he sold the car to when he bought hu 20 car

HU 8 was repaired for the french race
on the TF its red with green yellow stripes for Brescia Corse racing
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Old 2 Nov 2007, 14:51 (Ref:2057893)   #63
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Autosport's Osterreichring reports says Nicodemi had the ex-Osella/Facetti car. We know from Beat that Nicodemi sold it after a couple of races so it may be the car Casoni raced in August 1972.

But do we really know it was HU7 - or is that still educated speculation?

And are we any closer to knowing what car Giorgio Danieli had?
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Old 2 Nov 2007, 15:07 (Ref:2057907)   #64
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HU 8 was repaired for the french race
on the TF its red with green yellow stripes for Brescia Corse racing
Curiously, Zadra's car was plain red at Paul Ricard. See p60 of Naviaux - he's 20th on the grid.
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Old 18 Nov 2007, 09:55 (Ref:2070012)   #65
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Arthur Blank CH and his LOLA

Hans Treml and Nina Treml tell the story of Arthur Blank in the book "Die Aussenseiter, Schweizer im internationalen Automobilrennsport". There is a picture of a LOLA T290 (they write T294).

Is it the missing T290 HU4 ??

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Old 18 Nov 2007, 11:28 (Ref:2070084)   #66
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Do you know what year the picture was taken?
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Old 18 Nov 2007, 14:57 (Ref:2070200)   #67
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Arthur Blank - LOLA

The book have no source for this picture. Mr Blank was one of the owners of "powerslide".
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Old 26 Jan 2008, 18:52 (Ref:2114231)   #68
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The first half of Wigan-Chelsea was so boring that I thought I'd flick through some nearby Auutosport. On 2 Dec 1976 (p26-27) is an article on the Dorset team and it clearly says that Dorset ran the ex-Edwards/Barclays T290 in 1973 and 1974, upgrading it to T294 spec in 1974 (but without the inboard front brakes). They raced it again in 1975 (now fully T294 spec) and then, for 1976, expanded to a two-car team. The second car was also a T290/4 and also ex-Edwards, having been used as a show car. Unfortunately, there is a printing error as this car is mentioned and it cuts off after saying that it "had never ...". Never what? Never been raced before? I suspect so. I'd speculate that this car is HU29.

So after 1976 there should be two ex-Edwards/Dorset T290s, not one.
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Old 26 Jan 2008, 20:54 (Ref:2114303)   #69
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i will mail u directly on this 2nd car as i dont want to print here the info

bottom line is the 2nd dorset racing car was a show car built up as a rental car and NEVER had raced before it is not hu29 that went to japan
t290 had outboard brakes and T210 uprights t292 had inboard brakes and different uprights
the front brakes where always outboard brakes on t210 uprights through to t298 car
the edwards Barcley racing T290 is HU22 later known as T294 and t294S at LM etc always ford powered but carried various t292 -296 bodywork at the races and 1 DIY nos section i think at LM 1 year
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Old 26 Jan 2008, 20:58 (Ref:2114305)   #70
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How do you know it was not HU29 and how do you know HU29 went to Japan? Lola records show HU29 being sold to someone in GB.
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Old 26 Jan 2008, 21:21 (Ref:2114318)   #71
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Old 26 Jan 2008, 22:04 (Ref:2114331)   #72
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Could you just explain to me, what is a "DIY nos section" ?

Are you speaking about this car ? at LM 78

Copyright Amicalemans
32 Lola T294 S Dorset Racing Associa... Harrower, Slaugther, Joscelyne

What is the HU number ?

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Old 26 Jan 2008, 22:40 (Ref:2114355)   #73
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That's a rubbish statement Drifty. You can't just say that you know because you know. How do you know? Nobody else seems to have any record of HU29 going to Japan.
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Old 26 Jan 2008, 22:43 (Ref:2114359)   #74
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Could you just explain to me, what is a "DIY nos section" ?

Are you speaking about this car ? at LM 78

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32 Lola T294 S Dorset Racing Associa... Harrower, Slaugther, Joscelyne

What is the HU number ?
There were two DRA T294s. One was HU22, the other - according to the article - was also bought by DRA from Edwards but its original identity is unclear.
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Old 26 Jan 2008, 22:52 (Ref:2114369)   #75
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I know Allen, the other one was the 33 for Evans, Bond, Down; DNF wih a chassis problem...i will search for a pic...
and you will finit here / http://forums.motorlegend.com/vb/sho...t=27067&page=4

what is a "DIY nos section" ?

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