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Old 20 Dec 2007, 08:45 (Ref:2092493)   #1
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Roll Cage Materials

Hello,

Well i am trying to conduct an FEA on roll cages. I found that the usual materials used for Roll cages (According to FIA regulations+not) were:

1) CDS Carbon Steel

2) ERW Mild Steel

3) DOM Mild Steel

4) Cr (Chrome Molybdenum) Steel

Now i was searching for more info on the specific properties and specs on these but i could only find AISI 1018 steel which i think is CDS?

Anyone knows the specific material+properties used or more information for these 4 that is used in Roll Cage making?


I tried looking on MatWeb, but the results are all general and got me confused a little. Please help me out

thanks
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 10:43 (Ref:2092548)   #2
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Here is the thing, we discussed this pretty recently and quite a few options were listed with there "correct" numbers and what the common names were...
but I am looking and it is not there, indeed there seems to be quite a few missing from a month ago or so.
So I can't refer you like I would want to, because that has a lot more good stuff

CroMo is 4130
There is also 4130N and 4130AQ, which are the same with fractional changes in alloy and hence properties

FIA spec CDW (Cold drawn welded), I think is 1020. I think that is the DOM steel you refer to.
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 11:29 (Ref:2092588)   #3
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Here is the thing, we discussed this pretty recently and quite a few options were listed with there "correct" numbers and what the common names were...
but I am looking and it is not there, indeed there seems to be quite a few missing from a month ago or so.
So I can't refer you like I would want to, because that has a lot more good stuff

CroMo is 4130
There is also 4130N and 4130AQ, which are the same with fractional changes in alloy and hence properties

FIA spec CDW (Cold drawn welded), I think is 1020. I think that is the DOM steel you refer to.
Thanks for the info

I guess i was late for that thread i hope to find it somewhere
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 14:31 (Ref:2092690)   #4
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It's here:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102091
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 14:43 (Ref:2092693)   #5
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Looks like my own thread

I didn't get any emails for any replies

Sorry for duplicating threads. I just wanted the specific naming for these types of materials in relation to roll cages
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 15:52 (Ref:2092755)   #6
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What country are you in?
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Old 21 Dec 2007, 04:50 (Ref:2093141)   #7
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Couldn't find it because I thought it was in tech, not Racers

Outcell, I think you have quite a few SEA numbers to look at, from this and the other thread.
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What country are you in?
Is this important? Live in the UK at the moment
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Couldn't find it because I thought it was in tech, not Racers

Outcell, I think you have quite a few SEA numbers to look at, from this and the other thread.
I am looking at them now, thanks
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Yes it is important to my reply.

I suggest you get in touch with Hub le Bas who have UK offices but not US. They produce a wide range of steel tubing and have full specs on all the materials they produce and stock.

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Yes it is important to my reply.

I suggest you get in touch with Hub le Bas who have UK offices but not US. They produce a wide range of steel tubing and have full specs on all the materials they produce and stock.
Thanks, will look them up now
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