BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 70

mj088 · 6 Dec 2019, 19:49 (Ref:3945271)

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Originally Posted by RS67

Looking at Harlequin's Exceler8 prices against the Motorbase team wear from Dread for this year, Dread's T shirts were a fiver cheaper, polo shirts were the same price. Dread's jackets were fleece as opposed to harlequins soft shell but the Dread jackets were £10 cheaper.

Suppose it depends what your looking at, I have bought a new MG top each year (guess ill have to get something different in 2020) Initially I was surprised to see 2019 teamwear out at round 1 (Dread didnt), I know the jackets were cheaper than I have seen within Dread's tent - just checking now a "softshell" for TPC retails on Harlequin for £70, whilst a Cataclean or Honda Yuasa "softshell" on Dread is £120, (couple such as Simpson were cheaper but still £90, and your right they do have a cheaper jacket for some teams)

Either way, the positive from me is having stuff ready for round 1 which I can wear to the 3 or 4 events during the season, not having to wait till mid season to pick it up

Jiiiiiiim · 6 Dec 2019, 19:52 (Ref:3945272)

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Originally Posted by mj088

Suppose it depends what your looking at, I have bought a new MG top each year (guess ill have to get something different in 2020) Initially I was surprised to see 2019 teamwear out at round 1 (Dread didnt), I know the jackets were cheaper than I have seen within Dread's tent - just checking now a "softshell" for TPC retails on Harlequin for £70, whilst a Cataclean or Honda Yuasa "softshell" on Dread is £120, (couple such as Simpson were cheaper but still £90, and your right they do have a cheaper jacket for some teams)

Either way, the positive from me is having stuff ready for round 1 which I can wear to the 3 or 4 events during the season, not having to wait till mid season to pick it up

Dealt with Harlequin a few times over the season and they were great, sponsors were very happy with them and the quality of the teamwear was very good.

mj088 · 6 Dec 2019, 19:55 (Ref:3945274)

Also the couple that were serving were a lot more engaging, wanting to talk about how long ive been going to watch motor racing, who I follow, what sort of things I buy, asking what i thought of their designs and their stuff, just generally wanting to have a chat and being interested in their customers rather than just "£30 please" which is all I normally have from the guys in the Dread tents.

I know its all flap to get you to buy something but I felt they were making a lot of effort to engage as well as sell.

I might be wrong but I think a lot of their stuff was half price at the final round (BMR gear for sure)

Craner Curves · 6 Dec 2019, 22:33 (Ref:3945286)

Dread's postage and packaging is extortionate. Glad they have competition.

Liquoriceman · 7 Dec 2019, 08:44 (Ref:3945333)

Harlequin are clearing some stock through ebay. Just bought myself a soft shell for £40 +£3p&p

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RS67 · 7 Dec 2019, 09:44 (Ref:3945337)

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Originally Posted by mj088

Also the couple that were serving were a lot more engaging, wanting to talk about how long ive been going to watch motor racing, who I follow, what sort of things I buy, asking what i thought of their designs and their stuff, just generally wanting to have a chat and being interested in their customers rather than just "£30 please" which is all I normally have from the guys in the Dread tents.

I know its all flap to get you to buy something but I felt they were making a lot of effort to engage as well as sell.

The bloke who used to run the Dread stall was always chatty. Sadly he died a few years back.

Personally, I just want to buy my stuff and go, I have lots of other stuff to see and do, rather than spend time chatting.

mj088 · 7 Dec 2019, 13:30 (Ref:3945366)

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Originally Posted by Liquoriceman

Harlequin are clearing some stock through ebay. Just bought myself a soft shell for £40 +£3p&p

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Man, your going to be sooo last season

Alfisti · 7 Dec 2019, 13:40 (Ref:3945368)

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Originally Posted by mj088

Man, your going to be sooo last season

...bit like some of the cars on track

mj088 · 7 Dec 2019, 13:49 (Ref:3945370)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

...bit like some of the cars on track

Well....most of their stuff is MG or Subaru related who im pretty sure wont be on track

(no MG logo's on Exceler8 gear at least)

Although the TPC stuff being sold off looks good.

porsche962fan · 7 Dec 2019, 14:02 (Ref:3945371)

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Originally Posted by mj088

Man, your going to be sooo last season

https://previews.123rf.com/images/pi...ackground-.jpg

Liquoriceman · 7 Dec 2019, 22:15 (Ref:3945436)

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Originally Posted by mj088

Well....most of their stuff is MG or Subaru related who im pretty sure wont be on track

(no MG logo's on Exceler8 gear at least)

Although the TPC stuff being sold off looks good.

No manufacturer logo - Exactly

so not so stupid after all!

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mj088 · 8 Dec 2019, 10:07 (Ref:3945528)

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Originally Posted by Liquoriceman

No manufacturer logo - Exactly

so not so stupid after all!

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Who said any comment was "stupid"? I think you have missed the irony of being "so last season", this phrase is used in the fashion world for things which are no longer the thing to have and generally avoided, here we are buying things purposely that are a season old...

Last time I checked, Subaru had pulled out and its questionable what level of BMR branding we will see.
Why would you want to buy gear being sold off to turn up dressed to support a team and car which isn't competing?

We have no idea what the Exceler8 stuff for next year will look like so at the moment point pretty much stands.

You go ahead, wear your stuff with pride, don't take everything as an attack

jsmee · 8 Dec 2019, 10:33 (Ref:3945533)

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Originally Posted by mj088

Who said any comment was "stupid"? I think you have missed the irony of being "so last season", this phrase is used in the fashion world for things which are no longer the thing to have and generally avoided, here we are buying things purposely that are a season old...

Last time I checked, Subaru had pulled out and its questionable what level of BMR branding we will see.

Why would you want to buy gear being sold off to turn up dressed to support a team and car which isn't competing?

We have no idea what the Exceler8 stuff for next year will look like so at the moment point stands.

You go ahead, wear your stuff with pride

I think you've taken his comment a bit too personally...

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mj088 · 8 Dec 2019, 10:37 (Ref:3945534)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

I think you've taken his comment a bit too personally...

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Because I backed up a point? He took it I was calling him stupid when what I said was based on a fact!

clothing is a volitile issue, let's go back to everyone just saying "I know something you don't know" repeatedly and debating who makes the best presented lists.

Alfisti · 8 Dec 2019, 23:25 (Ref:3945634)

That does it, I'm gonna dig my Team Atomic Kitten fleece out of the loft... why be one season out of date when you can be 17!!!

(Where in the heck does time go?!)

RS67 · 9 Dec 2019, 06:05 (Ref:3945648)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

That does it, I'm gonna dig my Team Atomic Kitten fleece out of the loft... why be one season out of date when you can be 17!!!

(Where in the heck does time go?!)

I still wear my 93 ICS Ford team jacket from time to time.

crmalcolm · 9 Dec 2019, 06:50 (Ref:3945650)

A quick glance around the crowd at any BTCC meeting will tell you that wearing the current gear is far from a concern to many. Heck, even wearing BTCC gear seems to be of no concern, when you see the F1, MotoGP, Superbikes, WRC etc. clothing being worn.

S griffin · 9 Dec 2019, 09:06 (Ref:3945659)

It's now been officially confirmed. Colin back with WSR and BMW for 2020

BTW it's nice to see Dick Bennetts honoured at the Autosport Awards with the Gregor Grant award, not a moment too soon

crmalcolm · 9 Dec 2019, 09:15 (Ref:3945663)

So with Colin confirmed, does that make AJ in a BMW less likely?

crmalcolm · 9 Dec 2019, 09:18 (Ref:3945664)

Team	Car	Driver	Notes

Confirmed Entries
Excelr8	Hyundai i30	Smith ?	Confirmed in press release - want to retain driver lineup
Excelr8	Hyundai i30	Osborne ?	Confirmed in press release - want to retain driver lineup
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Cammish	2yr contract confirmed in press release
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Neal	Confirmed as driver pairing in press release
WSR	BMW 330i	Oliphant	Reported as continuing next year with the team
WSR	BMW 330i	Turkington	Confirmed in press release
WSR	BMW 330i	???	On TBL Entry List
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	Plato	Talked about engine / chassis developments for 2020 in interview
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	???	On TBL Entry List
Speedworks	Toyota Corolla	Ingram	Confirmed Ginsters backing for 2020 in article
Laser Tools (Aiden Moffat Racing)	Infiniti Q50	Moffat	Confirmed in press release
Laser Tools (Team BMR)	Infiniti Q50	Sutton	Confirmed in press release
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Rowbottom	Confirmed entry in Facebook post
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Morgan	Brands Hatch summary confirms 2020 return
HARD	VW CC	Goff	On BTCC.net (and others)
HARD	VW CC	Bushell	On BTCC.net (and others)
HARD	VW CC	???	On TBL Entry List
HARD	BMW 125i	Boardley	On BTCC.net (and others)
AmD (Cobra)	Honda Civic	Not 2019 driver(s)	Confirmed in social media post
AmD (Cobra)	Honda Civic	Not 2019 driver(s)	Confirmed in social media post
AmD (Trade Price)	???	???	On TBL Entry List
AmD (Trade Price)	???	???	On TBL Entry List
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	Smiley?	Social media post said returning, with picture of cars and drivers
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	Cook?	Social media post said returning, with picture of cars and drivers
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	???	On TBL Entry List
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	On TBL Entry List
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	On TBL Entry List
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	On TBL Entry List
Simpson Racing	Honda Civic?	Simpson?	On TBL Entry List - Rumoured to have vocalised a withdrawal
Team Parker	BMW ?	???	On TBL Entry List

Likely Entries
HARD	VW CC	Crees?	tags HARD on social media

Possible Entries
???	Jag ?	Crees	Rumoured by Crees in a Facebook interview
Not Motorbase	???	Chilton	Has been critical of the Focus in the press
???	???	Edwards	Has stated that she no longer drives in Clio Cup. Website is worded to suggest she is on the grid for 2020
HARD	VW CC	Thompson?	Claims to have exciting 2020 news on social media soon
HARD	VW CC	Coates?	Gilham #tagging?

Entries with doubt
???	???	Shedden	Speculation about wanting a return
???	???	M.Jackson	Linked to half of the teams on the grid
???	???	Blundell	Stated that he is undecided about a 2020 return
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
???	MB A-Class	???	Car on sale from Laser Tools
???	MG6	???	Excelr8 switched to Hyundai
???	MG6	???	Excelr8 switched to Hyundai
WSR?	BMW 330i?	Jordan	Lost Pirtek sponsorship, says he wants to stay in the BTCC, but only with WSR

porsche962fan · 9 Dec 2019, 09:25 (Ref:3945666)

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and details will be revealed shortly about the remainder of its line-up for 2020.

have a feeling AJ won't be back

Johno.UK · 9 Dec 2019, 09:35 (Ref:3945668)

Why are there two lists taking up 3/4's of my screen rather than just one? Is this a willy measuring contest that I've missed?

billy bleach · 9 Dec 2019, 09:54 (Ref:3945670)

Anyone read the Autosport article about who's is the best Champion, Turkington, Rouse or Plato Autosport reckon Rouse ....not in my book

Matt K · 9 Dec 2019, 09:54 (Ref:3945671)

Great to have Colin confirmed, finally he's regularly able to defend his crown and stay at WSR year after year. I'm sure BMW's involvement is in part responsible for it.

According to Motorsport.com WSR's full lineup will be revealed soon so I assume no AJ there and likely no AJ in BTCC (maybe there's some chance for BTC?)

touring fan01 · 9 Dec 2019, 10:00 (Ref:3945674)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

Great to have Colin confirmed, finally he's regularly able to defend his crown and stay at WSR year after year. I'm sure BMW's involvement is in part responsible for it.

According to Motorsport.com WSR's full lineup will be revealed soon so I assume no AJ there and likely no AJ in BTCC (maybe there's some chance for BTC?)

jordan will be at wsr again

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