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Old 29 Oct 2024, 14:40 (Ref:4232925)   #476
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Speaking of Speedworks, how changed do people expect their lineup to be? Just Huffy staying from this season or a chance they keep Cook too if Toyota contributed?
Huff staying, Watson heading back to GTs, Scott Sumpton in (IMO).
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Old 29 Oct 2024, 15:03 (Ref:4232928)   #477
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I can see Huff moving on. Don’t know where Watson will fill in. Sumpton might not be able to find a drive
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Old 29 Oct 2024, 16:28 (Ref:4232936)   #478
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I can see Huff moving on. Don’t know where Watson will fill in. Sumpton might not be able to find a drive
Sumpton owns his Cupra so he may go alone or join another, or sell and buy a different car but I fully expect to see him on the grid. Quite a winter ahead folks, get the popcorn ready.
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Old 29 Oct 2024, 16:29 (Ref:4232938)   #479
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Huff staying, Watson heading back to GTs, Scott Sumpton in (IMO).
Almost right
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Old 29 Oct 2024, 16:34 (Ref:4232939)   #480
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Sumpton owns his Cupra so he may go alone or join another, or sell and buy a different car but I fully expect to see him on the grid. Quite a winter ahead folks, get the popcorn ready.
As someone who seems to be in the know, would you predict the full 24 TBLS being allocated or closer to this year's grid?
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Old 29 Oct 2024, 19:11 (Ref:4232958)   #481
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I can see Huff moving on. Don’t know where Watson will fill in. Sumpton might not be able to find a drive
Or Watson to WSR? Could happen
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Old 29 Oct 2024, 21:02 (Ref:4232968)   #482
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It's almost like it's the driver/engineer combination that makes the difference and not the car.
You think...?
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Old 30 Oct 2024, 08:19 (Ref:4232998)   #483
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Huff staying, Watson heading back to GTs, Scott Sumpton in (IMO).
Watson back to GTs would spanner the thought that I think everyone has had that he's heading to WSR. Equally I couldn't blame him after the season he had if he went back to GTs.
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Old 30 Oct 2024, 09:19 (Ref:4233005)   #484
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Yes, Watson deserves another chance, but I wouldn't blame him if he went back to GTs
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Old 30 Oct 2024, 10:25 (Ref:4233010)   #485
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Season Launch at Donington in mid-April, pre-season testing a couple weeks earlier over two days at Croft: https://btcc.net/2025-season-launch-...ays-confirmed/
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Old 30 Oct 2024, 18:22 (Ref:4233057)   #486
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Season Launch at Donington in mid-April, pre-season testing a couple weeks earlier over two days at Croft: https://btcc.net/2025-season-launch-...ays-confirmed/
Good move to bring Media Day back up to Donny, the switch to Brands never like a right move.
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Old 30 Oct 2024, 19:54 (Ref:4233068)   #487
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Good move to bring Media Day back up to Donny, the switch to Brands never like a right move.
It was at Donny this year, agreed that it's a better location for it though.
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Old 30 Oct 2024, 20:00 (Ref:4233069)   #488
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Do we know for sure it was Watson behind the wheel of the Speedworks Toyota out testing recently, as while it ran no.11, Watson posted a picture from abroad the same day & I’m not sure it’s his crash helmet either, but picture isn’t that clear.
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Old 30 Oct 2024, 20:05 (Ref:4233072)   #489
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Do we know for sure it was Watson behind the wheel of the Speedworks Toyota out testing recently, as while it ran no.11, Watson posted a picture from abroad the same day & I’m not sure it’s his crash helmet either, but picture isn’t that clear.
Someone said Pearson had been testing with them and it did look a bit like his helmet at a glance, but I didn’t look all too closely so might be wrong.
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Old 31 Oct 2024, 11:05 (Ref:4233123)   #490
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Hybrid out, 100% sustainable fuel in for 2025 with boost coming purely from turbo power: https://btcc.net/btcc-introduces-100...ybrid-departs/

Wow.
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Old 31 Oct 2024, 11:10 (Ref:4233124)   #491
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See all the usual comments in social media with people thinking that the "massive", "huge", "insane" cost of the hybrid system is the reason for the grid being smaller this year.

Didn't see dropping the hybrid coming but it will be interesting to see what reasons those people come up with for the grid not jumping up to 30+ cars.

Wasn't expecting them to drop the hybrid but it's good to see the cars being much lighter for next season.
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Old 31 Oct 2024, 11:13 (Ref:4233125)   #492
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The hybrid is already looking dated and possibly a costly mis-step. The way the general car market is going, committing to the current rule set until the end of 2026 is looking misguided, given the rapid expansion of full electric vehicles on the road. What only a few years ago looked like pioneering technology (hybrid) is more and more old news already.
Quoting from the 2023 rumours thread, this was posted on 15/02/2023. I know EV is a hot topic at the moment, with some strongly held views (a mixture of some legitimate concerns + some head-in-the-sand don't accept change), but I still think longer term the series is going to end up with mini SUV EVs sooner or later.
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Old 31 Oct 2024, 11:14 (Ref:4233126)   #493
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Hybrid out, 100% sustainable fuel in for 2025 with boost coming purely from turbo power: https://btcc.net/btcc-introduces-100...ybrid-departs/

Wow.
Yeah I’m shocked they dropped it but not exactly disappointed.

Also, they’re notably removing the hybrid/boost graphic from the timing screens to avoid teams using it cover one another off.
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One interesting note I see is that the additional power is now coming from boost pressure. This is fine, but I wonder if any of the engine tuners of the non-TOCA units have any concerns about running higher boost than they have designed for so far in their work?
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Quoting from the 2023 rumours thread, this was posted on 15/02/2023. I know EV is a hot topic at the moment, with some strongly held views (a mixture of some legitimate concerns + some head-in-the-sand don't accept change), but I still think longer term the series is going to end up with mini SUV EVs sooner or later.
I can't see it, I think sustainable fuel generally seems to be the way of lot of national (and some international series) are looking to continue to appeal to fans whilst also addressing the legitimate concerns about environmental impact.

It will be interesting to see what manufacturers do, but these seem to be hugely positive steps that should reduce costs to some degree.
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Didn't see dropping the hybrid coming but it will be interesting to see what reasons those people come up with for the grid not jumping up to 30+ cars.
The hybrid going won't bring back anyone already gone. It might save a few who were in doubt over the winter for 2025.
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Feels like a backwards step to me to be honest.
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I can't see it, I think sustainable fuel generally seems to be the way of lot of national (and some international series) are looking to continue to appeal to fans whilst also addressing the legitimate concerns about environmental impact.
The switch will be painful for most series so it's hardly surprising to see efforts to cling on to what they are using currently.

No-one has a crystal ball of course, but with the ban on conventionally fuelled road cars back to 2030 (of course this can, and probably will change) it sees pretty clear the direction of travel.

I imagine unless you're living in a rural area that if you look up and down your street the number of houses with EV charging points outside will have rapidly increased over the last few years, and I'm not in a posh suburb somewhere.
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Every car on the grid has a hybrid in its range. I know there’s almost no real manufacturer backing these days but if a brand was looking at some motorsport to chuck some money behind, this decision might put them off.
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