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Old 27 Jul 2021, 10:07 (Ref:4063378)   #2551
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If they use that excuse, and get away with it, I think we shall soon see a few more people being put into hospital. The Verstappen incident was no accident but a carefully planned way of eliminating a rival.

Can't agree Bob, but certainly a mistake by Lewis.
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Old 27 Jul 2021, 10:19 (Ref:4063380)   #2552
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Old 27 Jul 2021, 11:05 (Ref:4063387)   #2553
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Can't agree Bob, but certainly a mistake by Lewis.
Morny,
Taking about 10 seconds of Copse Corner, yes it could be just a racing accident,
however, if you put it in to context of Hamilton's burning desire to win his home GP, and the adulation of the fans that he loves, the superiority of Red Bull, as shown in the sprint race, and things looked bad for Lewis. so an attempt to pass on the inside of Copse, something most drivers seemed to think a no,no. and the conspiracy theory makes more sense. Lewis knows what he is doing, a multi World Champion. on a circuit he knows like the back of his hand accidentally hits Max's rear with his front! Bingo Job done.
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Old 27 Jul 2021, 11:11 (Ref:4063389)   #2554
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Oh qawd, let's not have that discussion here as well.
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Taking about 10 seconds of Copse Corner, yes it could be just a racing accident,
however, if you put it in to context of Hamilton's burning desire to win his home GP, and the adulation of the fans that he loves, the superiority of Red Bull, as shown in the sprint race, and things looked bad for Lewis. so an attempt to pass on the inside of Copse, something most drivers seemed to think a no,no. and the conspiracy theory makes more sense. Lewis knows what he is doing, a multi World Champion. on a circuit he knows like the back of his hand accidentally hits Max's rear with his front! Bingo Job done.
Damn!

That Hamilton bloke must be seriously talented to be able to hit a competitor at EXACTLY the right point to dislodge his tyre whilst travelling 180mph, having ZERO control over the competitors car and not causing himself serious damage so that he can continue and win the race. All at the same time as telepathically knowing that the race would be red flagged and know what penalty he was going to recieve so he knew the risk of 'taking out' his competitor would be worth it.

Tin Foil Hats engaged...conspiracy theory indeed.

I suppose this is a banter thread, so i suspect Bauble was joking...its the only logical explaination.
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Old 27 Jul 2021, 14:21 (Ref:4063422)   #2557
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Old 27 Jul 2021, 14:42 (Ref:4063427)   #2558
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Old 27 Jul 2021, 15:06 (Ref:4063432)   #2559
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Hey the Max/Lewis incident isn't the only thing happening in F1 you know
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Old 27 Jul 2021, 17:17 (Ref:4063441)   #2560
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True, and there's an Eff Wun forum to cover it.

But hey, what about Carraciola/Rosemeyer? That's turning into quite a ding dong.

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True, and there's an Eff Wun forum to cover it.

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But hey, what about Carraciola/Rosemeyer? That's turning into quite a ding dong.
Now we're talking, having just finished reading Cristopher Hilton's excellent 'Nuvolari' - oh hang on wrong thread again?
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Now we're talking, having just finished reading Cristopher Hilton's excellent 'Nuvolari' - oh hang on wrong thread again?
No not really, it might not be Historic racing today, but it related to the type of cars we all love.

I always put Tazio/Juan Manuel/Stirling on the podum and let the rest sort themselves out.

With regard to the British GP events it could be interesting to look back at tome of the 'dirty tricks' of Formula 1 over the years, there are plenty of examples,

McLaren stealing Ferrari's design, Adelaide 1994 (?), Tyrell's lead balls in the petrol tank, even Ferraris use of oil to boost consumption.recently. Not exactly banter but could make for interesting discussion.
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Old 28 Jul 2021, 05:10 (Ref:4063511)   #2564
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McLaren stealing Ferrari's design, Adelaide 1994 (?),
Bob, I think it was much later, in 2007-8, and more a Melbourne thing than Adelaide....

If we are on the same 'scandal'..... when in 2007, Mrs (wife of McLaren Designer Mike) Coughlan went into a Woking Photocopying shop and asked the clerk there (an unknown to her, an F1 maybe even a Ferrari fan), to copy almost 800 pages of official Ferrari F1 plans and drawings onto CD's..... before going home and having a bonfire with the papers to destroy the evidence....
Said clerk sent an email to Ferrari saying "Were you aware....."
And then it was
Quite a good account of what happened here:
https://www.wired.com/2008/05/ff-formulaone/

Not the first time an F1 car has been copied and then legally challenged though.... more in an era nearer our Historic racing category, the Arrows FA1 was basically a carbon copy of a Shadow DN9 and had similar legal wranglings back in 1978. I think it was Tony Southgate who designed both cars in what was deemed legally as a bit of a conflict of interests.

Of course another one was Renault ordering one of their cars to do a Singapore Sling into wall, and crash deliberately to facilitate the other Renault team driver's win of the race with a bizarre pitstop under the ensuing Safety Car.

And my pet peeve was everything had to be some sort of a gate..... Crashgate, Spygate etc.

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