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Old 12 Oct 2000, 12:00 (Ref:42550)   #1
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Although Button has been very impressive this season he has proved how much Ralf Schumacher is overated, Ralf only got his status at wiiliams because Zanardi was so poor. Ralf is supposed to be an expert of Suzuka but Jenson outqualified him on his first visit as he did at Spa, 2 of the most challenging circuits in F1 nowadays and has made less mistakes I keep reading how Ralf thinks that Montoya will struggle, but I think that he fears him!
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Old 12 Oct 2000, 12:43 (Ref:42561)   #2
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Maybe he is overated because we expected a lot from him, his brother is the best driver now days, he proved to have the skills, but he might have one of those stand under pressure problems, and it has´nt been the two most pleasent years for williams, so all the looks are at the poor shum jr., anyway he is the best driver not seated in a mac or a ferrari, and even better than some nº2 drivers of those teams.
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Old 12 Oct 2000, 12:45 (Ref:42563)   #3
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Think twice on judgements,Dean T.

Hakkinen won his first GP race at aged 29.
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Old 12 Oct 2000, 14:04 (Ref:42576)   #4
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But does anyone else get the impression that Ralf is more a member of the team than Jenson, who is just using the car to launch his carreer? I don't know if it's just that Ralf has been there longer and is more settled, but in interviews etc. it just seems like he puts the interests of Williams at least level with his own racing. Jenson is willing to help with the car when it gives him problems, of course...

Anyway, I wouldn't even be in F1 if my brother was Michael Schumacher. Talk about an inferiority complex!
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Old 12 Oct 2000, 19:22 (Ref:42614)   #5
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I keep reading how Ralf thinks that Montoya will struggle, but I think that he fears him!
No, Dean. You don't really keep reading. You have just read the exact same comments several times.

Ralf is most definitely the best driver outside of the top two teams, and I have no doubt that he is a better driver than Rubens Barrichello.

You're judging too quickly - Ralf is not overrated. He is just under a lot of pressure to perform as the brother of a now triple world champion.

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Old 13 Oct 2000, 00:16 (Ref:42666)   #6
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Dean T,

If I'm not wrong, Suzuka wasn't a new track for Jenson at all. He was there racing SuperKarts -250cc.-, two years ago.
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Old 13 Oct 2000, 01:36 (Ref:42676)   #7
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In Ralf's defense, he hasn't exactly been driving the best cars throughout his career. Last season, in a Williams team in the doldrums, he drove brilliantly and looked a lot better than Frentzen and JV had the year before. His one possibility to win last season was ruined by a blown tire-the European GP should have been his. Not to diminish Bunsen's first year achievements, but qualifyingposition is great, but points count more and Ralf leads there.

Recalling that Ralf and the highly-rated Fisichella were teamates at Jordan in '97, it once seemed that the young Roman was the future WDC and that Ralf's career would be brief and tragic. He has matured immensely and Fisi is becoming mired in mediocrity.
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Old 13 Oct 2000, 08:04 (Ref:42696)   #8
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Dean T,

If I'm not wrong, Suzuka wasn't a new track for Jenson at all. He was there racing SuperKarts -250cc.-, two years ago.

According to Martin Brundle on ITV, he had raced at Suzuka before, but it was a kart track across the road, I think in 100cc non gearbox karts.
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Old 13 Oct 2000, 08:10 (Ref:42697)   #9
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I think alot of it has to do with the fact that TGF is his brother. otherwise, I don't anyone would even mention him being overrated.

He is probably not as good a TGF, but I doubt TGF would be much faster if he was in a williams
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Old 13 Oct 2000, 19:03 (Ref:42776)   #10
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Recalling that Ralf and the highly-rated Fisichella were teamates at Jordan in '97, it once seemed that the young Roman was the future WDC and that Ralf's career would be brief and tragic. He has matured immensely and Fisi is becoming mired in mediocrity.

Quite right, EERO. Well said.

I read something similar on the Autosport website a while ago by Nigel Roebuck. He said that although Fisichella was once considered a better prospect, most teams would now not sign Fisichella if they thought they could sign Ralf instead.
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Old 13 Oct 2000, 20:43 (Ref:42787)   #11
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I realize that it is hard to compare the two drivers because they are driving for 2 different teams, but I would still rate Fissi as a better driver than Ralf (Sorry Ralf's girl). Although he is behind Ralf in the points standings, he makes fewer mistakes than Ralf, and has put that Benetton in places it should never have been. Like on the podium!

I am not sure that Ralf is overrate though. I haven't heard many people, apart from Ralf's Girl say that he was anything terribly special. In addition to the 4 drivers at McLaren and Ferrari, I would also rate Fissi and Villeneuve as better drivers than Ralf.
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Old 13 Oct 2000, 21:09 (Ref:42791)   #12
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I'm not just saying this because I'm biased (I know, I know...) but I rate Ralf as a better driver than Fisichella and Barrichello. Barrichello because he has generally been very poor this year, and half the time he has never even looked like he wanted to be in the race, and Fisichella because while you say he makes fewer mistakes, perhaps you are actually saying he's not trying as hard as Ralf? Sir Frank hasn't had to lay into Ralf this season for not trying has he, unlike Falvio Briatore has done to Fisichella. Fisichella has far more off days than Ralf, and has brought the car home outside of the points more frequently as well.
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Old 13 Oct 2000, 21:57 (Ref:42797)   #13
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Ralf is a very good driver, and a steady pointscorer and podium finisher. He has proven that over the last two seasons. During his spell with Jordan he was testing the limits, to see how fast he could go without falling off, and now he has become very consistent. Fisichella had the edge over him when they were team-mates at Jordan, but I doubt if he is better at the present time.

Jay, I have the opposite impression, I actually remember quite a lot of people saying Ralf is special, some even saying that he's faster than his brother. Anyone remember Indy BTW? Ralf would have been second had he not been forced to retire from the race through no fault of his own.

I think Ralf and Montoya will be a formidable force for Williams next year, and I think they both will win race(s).

Ralf is not the best driver outside the top two teams, however. That is Jacques Villeneuve.
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Old 14 Oct 2000, 01:56 (Ref:42824)   #14
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Jay, I for one rate him third out there and feel that Fisi has really slipped. I think R explains it perfectly; now that he knows the limits, he is both fast and consistent.
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Old 14 Oct 2000, 03:09 (Ref:42837)   #15
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Don't get me wrong here, I would still rate Ralf as a very good driver, but I feel that Mika, David, Michael, Jacques, and Giancarlo appear a little more skilled to me. I take back Rubens.

It is really too bad that we cant see these guys all go at each other with the same equipment.
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