IMSA 2023 IMSA Season

[broadrun96]

You'd think someone was ringing them up as soon as they saw the news and have an extra car. Come on AO Racing, run Rexy and Roxy

[J Jay]

It makes far too much sense not to happen.

I'd even buy the Rexy/Roxy combo shirt.

[C6R Racing Fan]

Petit entry list soon?

Joseph Newgarden in a 963 right?

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by C6R Racing Fan

Petit entry list soon?

Joseph Newgarden in a 963 right?

Yes.

Bus bro Scott in Tower's P2.

[broadrun96]

54 cars

https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo...ntryList_1.pdf

10 GTP, 9 LMP2, 8 LMP3, 8 GTD Pro and 19 GTDs

Michelin Pilot Challenge 38, 28 GT4s

https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo..._EntryList.pdf

Only 25 MX-5s though

[joeb]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

54 cars

https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo...ntryList_1.pdf

10 GTP, 9 LMP2, 8 LMP3, 8 GTD Pro and 19 GTDs

Michelin Pilot Challenge 38, 28 GT4s

https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo..._EntryList.pdf

Only 25 MX-5s though

Wow, the 3rd drivers drafted in for GTP are a pretty accomplished bunch! You'd expect the factory teams to bring in star power, but the 2 independent teams have Jenson Button and Neil Jani!

[GT3_Fan]

I look at it as 27 GTD's. I have treated them as one race/category since GTLM left. There is no race where the prototype leaders hit the back of the GT traffic from the start faster than Petit Le Mans. I'm betting on 7 minutes this year.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

I look at it as 27 GTD's. I have treated them as one race/category since GTLM left. There is no race where the prototype leaders hit the back of the GT traffic from the start faster than Petit Le Mans. I'm betting on 7 minutes this year.

The way IMSA do the split start gets the GT cars lapped even faster these days too.

[JT240Z]

That's one thing about the Petit... Always a mix of cars on the track with GTD and prototypes mixed together all the time. Makes it more interesting that way.

[GT3_Fan]

If the race is littered with safety cars PLUS you got more demand for grid space in 2024. Maybe the race could get modified some what would be ideas?

Split races perhaps? Can spectators handle two 10 hour races. Perhaps a GTP/GTD Pro race and a GTD am/LMP2 one? One on Saturday. One on Sunday. Could allow for less incidents and less safety cars for each. More cars for each class too.

[JT240Z]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

If the race is littered with safety cars PLUS you got more demand for grid space in 2024. Maybe the race could get modified some what would be ideas?

Split races perhaps? Can spectators handle two 10 hour races. Perhaps a GTP/GTD Pro race and a GTD am/LMP2 one? One on Saturday. One on Sunday. Could allow for less incidents and less safety cars for each. More cars for each class too.

Personally I like the Petit just the way it is. One ten-hour race with all classes running together. A Sunday Petit would be out since local laws would not allow it. They have mandated quite time on Sunday. If there's too many cars entered, then that would make qualifying a meaning full exercise and a lot more competitive.

[broadrun96]

Would be able to run a split race 8-10 with quiet time 10-noon or 1230.

But that wouldn't be Petit any more. Wouldn't be as good an event with the AMs pushed to the their own event. Every time there's crying about too many cars and SC fest it turns in to a good race so I'm not gonna worry about it

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

I look at it as 27 GTD's. I have treated them as one race/category since GTLM left. There is no race where the prototype leaders hit the back of the GT traffic from the start faster than Petit Le Mans. I'm betting on 7 minutes this year.

I always treat it as 64 individual classes. For three drivers there are 64 different combinations of bronze, silver, gold and platinum. Obviously some classes are empty. My favorite class of all these is what I call the Olympic, or GTO, class - the bronze/silver/gold combo.

Go Heart of Racing #27!

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by Adam43

I always treat it as 64 individual classes. For three drivers there are 64 different combinations of bronze, silver, gold and platinum. Obviously some classes are empty. My favorite class of all these is what I call the Olympic, or GTO, class - the bronze/silver/gold combo.

Go Heart of Racing #27!

That’s an interesting way of looking at it. Not sure I could split them up into that many categories

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Adam43

I always treat it as 64 individual classes. For three drivers there are 64 different combinations of bronze, silver, gold and platinum. Obviously some classes are empty. My favorite class of all these is what I call the Olympic, or GTO, class - the bronze/silver/gold combo.

Go Heart of Racing #27!

So you're the reason everyone gets a trophy and the radio stays on all Saturday night, and the ILMC at Sebring presentation ended last weekend finally


But that's also why it's tough to explain races to some of the folks who ask about it. It's all NASCAR/sports style and everyone wants to know who you want to win and who you want to lose. Trying to explain a having a fun time at the race is more the goal than any one team winning. That said, anyone does something stupid, **** poor driving, etc then f that guy and hope their engine lets go.

[Adam43]

They all contribute to my fun and are doing something I would love to - they all should get a trophy.
Except those driving M4s, obviously

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by JT240Z

That's one thing about the Petit... Always a mix of cars on the track with GTD and prototypes mixed together all the time. Makes it more interesting that way.

I've said it for years. A GT-only race would draw more overseas entries, especially now with the Indianapolis 8 Hours the week before.

[JT240Z]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I've said it for years. A GT-only race would draw more overseas entries, especially now with the Indianapolis 8 Hours the week before.

More entries don't always make the race a better race. I like the mix of prototype and GT on the track at the same time. Makes for some very interesting events.

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by JT240Z

More entries don't always make the race a better race. I like the mix of prototype and GT on the track at the same time. Makes for some very interesting events.

Yes it does! Sportscar + GTs or big GTs with smaller GTs and Olympic GTs - all great combos which we sadly don't see enough!

[JT240Z]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Yes it does! Sportscar + GTs or big GTs with smaller GTs and Olympic GTs - all great combos which we sadly don't see enough!

It's not the Petit Le Mans. Why don't they just break up the 24 hours of Le Mans into a few 4-hour races. Think of how many more drivers could be there. Boring!

Hey Coach, do you even plan to attend the Petit? I don't see why since it's such a limited race and soooo boring!

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by JT240Z

It's not the Petit Le Mans. Why don't they just break up the 24 hours of Le Mans into a few 4-hour races. Think of how many more drivers could be there. Boring!

Hey Coach, do you even plan to attend the Petit? I don't see why since it's such a limited race and soooo boring!

I'm sad to miss this year but have been many times between 2000 and last year. Love the Petit. Will miss many dear friends this time.

Btw, I was talking endurance racing in general, not in a 1,000 years (see what I did there?!), would I change the Petit! Re racing on Sunday: were you there for the World Challenge aftermath in the early 2000s when then ran just the GT and TC races the day after the Petit? It was anti climaxing. Good times nevertheless.

[GT3_Fan]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Would be able to run a split race 8-10 with quiet time 10-noon or 1230.

But that wouldn't be Petit any more. Wouldn't be as good an event with the AMs pushed to the their own event. Every time there's crying about too many cars and SC fest it turns in to a good race so I'm not gonna worry about it

Well if you go by having 1 and only 1 standard which is a mad dash shootout at the end where the previously 9.5 hours don't mean much. So yeah I like my idea two 10 hour petit le mans races. One on Friday, One on Saturday or back to back Saturdays. One is LMP2/GTD am, the other is GTP/GTD pro

[JT240Z]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

Well if you go by having 1 and only 1 standard which is a mad dash shootout at the end where the previously 9.5 hours don't mean much. So yeah I like my idea two 10 hour petit le mans races. One on Friday, One on Saturday or back to back Saturdays. One is LMP2/GTD am, the other is GTP/GTD pro

And when was the last time you attended the Petit?

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

Well if you go by having 1 and only 1 standard which is a mad dash shootout at the end where the previously 9.5 hours don't mean much. So yeah I like my idea two 10 hour petit le mans races. One on Friday, One on Saturday or back to back Saturdays. One is LMP2/GTD am, the other is GTP/GTD pro

But you would still have the same rules and FAR FAR FAR fewer cars. Cause yeah, all those teams want to be the undercard on the day everyone is leaving? Oh and then make the crew and volunteers around the team work 2 12 hour days or longer if you want to Fri Quali the Sat event. It's just a non starter idea

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by JT240Z

And when was the last time you attended the Petit?

I'm gonna go with never, I'm leaning towards no racing in person and debating if a troll