TCR International Series - Page 24

Go_For_Pole · 12 Sep 2015, 16:56 (Ref:3573393)

More importantly the Italian federation is launching a TCR championship next year.

pimmy · 12 Sep 2015, 17:28 (Ref:3573397)

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Originally Posted by Mark0994

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...ubaru-wrx-tcr/

Good to see 'classic' Subaru paintjob

Any other livery would have been wrong, tbh.

Alessio · 13 Sep 2015, 18:36 (Ref:3573630)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

More importantly the Italian federation is launching a TCR championship next year.

I thought they had one at present or are they pushing for an entirely separate occasion?

Go_For_Pole · 14 Sep 2015, 19:03 (Ref:3573864)

Now TCR is a class within CITE, what they talked about for 2016 is a proper standalone championship

pimmy · 15 Sep 2015, 17:56 (Ref:3574049)

Interesting that the inventor of Tecpro barriers is on the entry list this weekend.

DS" · 16 Sep 2015, 11:31 (Ref:3574214)

Germany gets their own TCR Series, run by the ADAC and Engstler Motorsport as "ADAC TCR Germany": http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/mo...h-deutschland/

It's going to be its own series, with no links to ADAC Procar, which I find a bit unfortunate, especially since Procar seems to have gotten their act together. Still, it's good to see a TCR series here and hopefully Opel and VW will help to promote the series in Germany a bit. I don't expect it to challenge the DTM, but they could at least rise to STW-levels, in my opinion.

Bramzel · 16 Sep 2015, 11:32 (Ref:3574215)

Great news, but the missing link with Procar is dissapointing. I guess we'll see that one dissapearing soon?

Speed-King · 16 Sep 2015, 11:38 (Ref:3574217)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DS"

Germany gets their own TCR Series, run by the ADAC and Engstler Motorsport as "ADAC TCR Germany": http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/mo...h-deutschland/

It's going to be its own series, with no links to ADAC Procar, which I find a bit unfortunate, especially since Procar seems to have gotten their act together. Still, it's good to see a TCR series here and hopefully Opel and VW will help to promote the series in Germany a bit. I don't expect it to challenge the DTM, but they could at least rise to STW-levels, in my opinion.

There's only one problem: The STW-slot is currently occupied by the - nowadays somewhat struggling - ADAC GT-Masters... A succesful TCR series might hurt GT-Masters just as much as it might hurt Procar.

DS" · 16 Sep 2015, 11:56 (Ref:3574220)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Great news, but the missing link with Procar is dissapointing. I guess we'll see that one dissapearing soon?

Actually not. Procar's prospects seem to be fine going into 2016. They'll add a new secondary class for next year and have enough teams interested in entering the series next year. New manufacturers are also rumoured.

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

There's only one problem: The STW-slot is currently occupied by the - nowadays somewhat struggling - ADAC GT-Masters... A succesful TCR series might hurt GT-Masters just as much as it might hurt Procar.

I think it could hurt the GT Masters more than Procar, given that GT3 has seen a cost explosion, while Procar's relatively fresh regulations haven't. I mean, former GT Masters team owners like Hans Reiter have expressed interest in TCR, so I assume that there are potential entries by former GT Masters teams.

Speed-King · 16 Sep 2015, 12:04 (Ref:3574222)

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Actually not. Procar's prospects seem to be fine going into 2016. They'll add a new secondary class for next year and have enough teams interested in entering the series next year. New manufacturers are also rumoured.

Got a link for that?

DS" · 16 Sep 2015, 12:12 (Ref:3574224)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Got a link for that?

You've got a PN!

**FIRE** · 16 Sep 2015, 15:06 (Ref:3574255)

In my opinion it would be more logical to add TCR class to Procar.
Or do they expect to have 15 or more cars in it's first season? Seems unlikely to me.

tux · 19 Sep 2015, 21:15 (Ref:3575040)

I enjoyed the first race from Singapore, very entertaining and much better than the earlier rounds that i saw.

Great to see the Subaru finally got on track after its awful journey.

tux · 20 Sep 2015, 09:04 (Ref:3575325)

Race 2 was enjoyable, a little spread out at the front but some decent battles down the field. Shame to see the Subaru retire but was running really well before that.

Bramzel · 21 Sep 2015, 07:37 (Ref:3575620)

Great looking machine that Subaru:

**BertMk2** · 21 Sep 2015, 12:48 (Ref:3575705)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Great looking machine that Subaru:

Really??!! I think it looks awful - the front's not too bad but that rear end is dreadful, the rear arches in particular are hideous.

Bramzel · 21 Sep 2015, 14:54 (Ref:3575748)

The rear isn't its strongest point, true, but from this 3/4 frontal angle I think it's good looking.

**FIRE** · 21 Sep 2015, 16:40 (Ref:3575798)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

Really??!! I think it looks awful - the front's not too bad but that rear end is dreadful, the rear arches in particular are hideous.

I agree

Speed-King · 21 Sep 2015, 17:31 (Ref:3575813)

Not saying it looks nice, but I can appreciate the slight Group 5 touch...

touring fan01 · 21 Sep 2015, 21:47 (Ref:3575882)

anyone else notice that Subaru made them take off the Subaru logo on the side after they launched their livery?

launch
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...ubaru-wrx-tcr/

race
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...ical-problems/

auroan · 22 Sep 2015, 15:24 (Ref:3576078)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

anyone else notice that Subaru made them take off the Subaru logo on the side after they launched their livery?

launch
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...ubaru-wrx-tcr/

race
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...ical-problems/

That's weird. I thought the TCR regs meant you "had" to get manufacturer support in building a car (including being capable of building multiple chassis as as supplier to other teams) to be able to introduce a marque to the championship.

Why would Suburu support Top Run without allowing them to use the logo ?

touring fan01 · 22 Sep 2015, 20:53 (Ref:3576181)

no requirement for manufacturer support. they just have to allow their model to be used.

the embarrassing Ford Focus is another demonstration of manaufacturer support not existing.

Bramzel · 23 Sep 2015, 06:20 (Ref:3576250)

It was embarrassing in the hands of Onyx, but now that others are involved the ball seems to start rolling.

auroan · 23 Sep 2015, 09:03 (Ref:3576282)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

no requirement for manufacturer support. they just have to allow their model to be used.

the embarrassing Ford Focus is another demonstration of manaufacturer support not existing.

Fair enough. Although I thinks it's still a little open to interpretation

This helps

http://www.tcr-series.com/pdf/TCR%20...egulations.pdf

Bramzel · 23 Sep 2015, 09:34 (Ref:3576292)

A car doesn't have to be developed by a manufacturer, this can be a independent tuner as well. However, as far as I know it was not allowed for manufacturers/developers to actually run the cars themselves, they have to be sold to teams who can run them. I think there are some exceptions made at the moment to get some cars on the grid, but I'm pretty sure that was the plan.

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