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Old 13 Feb 2018, 15:14 (Ref:3800995)   #1
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For us GT fans who want to discuss the real race for Le Mans this year without all of the talk about the LMP categories getting in the way.

What do you think? GTE Pro will be the best field ever for sure. Despite the big numbers that Ferrari, Ford, and Porsche are putting in. I still think Corvette is going to challenge for the victory. May not be the year for Aston Martin or BMW.

For GTE Am. I think it is a bummer that Scuderia Corse was not invited. They have won the race before. Biggest let down for sure. However great to see Risi and Keating team up. I look forward to seeing their 3rd driver. That could determine if they are favorites for the victory.

I love the Porsche 911 RSR though. And for sure the 10 car fleet, put together for Le Mans is going to make a huge impact.
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Old 13 Feb 2018, 15:47 (Ref:3801017)   #2
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17 GTE-Pro entries is simply amazing.

Porsche, Ford and Ferrari have more entries, but Chevrolet, BMW and Aston Martin can't be discarded at all.
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Old 13 Feb 2018, 16:33 (Ref:3801039)   #3
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For us GT fans who want to discuss the real race for Le Mans this year without all of the talk about the LMP categories getting in the way.
Surely it's the other way round, don't you mean the GTE's getting in the way of the LMP's...?



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17 GTE-Pro entries is simply amazing.

Porsche, Ford and Ferrari have more entries, but Chevrolet, BMW and Aston Martin can't be discarded at all.
Agree just with these 6 manufacturers entry in gtpro, ACO should seriously think about a GT stand alone series as a new world FIA GT.
Anyway I'm quite sure that 2008 spa and le mans GT1 still unbroken pole records will fall this year.
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The field in pro looks excellent but a little thin in Am. Really surprised about all those 911's not sure what the ACO was thinking after the way porsche treated them last year. a few less of them and more for the other manufacturers would have been acceptable to most people i think
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Old 13 Feb 2018, 17:56 (Ref:3801067)   #6
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Surely it's the other way round, don't you mean the GTE's getting in the way of the LMP's...?



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I'll be running away with you then......


No, happy to see a good GTE field of course.
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Anyway I'm quite sure that 2008 spa and le mans GT1 still unbroken pole records will fall this year.
Really? You reckon they'll find another 3+ seconds at Le Mans this year? Sub 3:50 if conditions are right, but not sure I can agree about that GT1 pole time being bettered.
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The field in pro looks excellent but a little thin in Am. Really surprised about all those 911's not sure what the ACO was thinking after the way porsche treated them last year. a few less of them and more for the other manufacturers would have been acceptable to most people i think
The way Porsche treated them??? What???

And as for 'other manufacturers', in GTE-SHAM, they do not exist (with the exception of Corvette C7.R which no-one wants to field because there are so few of them and to the words of Larbre the chassis is "aging" + Ford which you cannot buy) so you couldn't really get them there even if you wanted them

Unless you meant more Ferraris or Astons which is about as uninteresting as Porsches for most people

Riley being left out of LMP2 is something one might argue about however

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Anyway I'm quite sure that 2008 spa and le mans GT1 still unbroken pole records will fall this year.
I think that 2007-2008 spec Corvette C6.R / AMR DBR9* / Saleen S7-R with modern 2018 spec Michelins (and no BoP crap) could do about 3.43-45. at Le Mans today, not only because of the tire advancements but the track being million times faster too.

* Yes I know those have been run in the AMR Festival at LM in recent years with terrible pace, but they have been trialed by amateurs. And I'm not sure but probably in slow-ass 2010 FIA GT1 setup too

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Did not take long to get the 3rd driver for Risi/Keating Ferrari. Luca Stolz. A veteran of Porsches and Mercedes mainly.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...r-24h-le-mans/
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The way Porsche treated them??? What???

And as for 'other manufacturers', in GTE-SHAM, they do not exist (with the exception of Corvette C7.R which no-one wants to field because there are so few of them and to the words of Larbre the chassis is "aging" + Ford which you cannot buy) so you couldn't really get them there even if you wanted them

Unless you meant more Ferraris or Astons which is about as uninteresting as Porsches for most people

Riley being left out of LMP2 is something one might argue about however



I think that 2007-2008 spec Corvette C6.R / AMR DBR9* / Saleen S7-R with modern 2018 spec Michelins (and no BoP crap) could do about 3.43-45. at Le Mans today, not only because of the tire advancements but the track being million times faster too.

* Yes I know those have been run in the AMR Festival at LM in recent years with terrible pace, but they have been trialed by amateurs. And I'm not sure but probably in slow-ass 2010 FIA GT1 setup too
Agree, with nowadays confidential michelins, aero updates and weight/power ratio like 1100-1150kg/600hp, quite sure those GT1 will be scoring close to 2012-2013 lmp2 laptimes.
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ACO/FIA needs to address the new Aston for AM class. They need to find a way to allow them to race. Variety is part of what makes GT extremely interesting!
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ACO/FIA needs to address the new Aston for AM class. They need to find a way to allow them to race. Variety is part of what makes GT extremely interesting!
They might as well considering "rules" haven't been part of the GTE/GT2 experience for number of years now...
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I thought that the GTE-Am one-year rule was asked by manufacturers to allow them to resell GTE-Pro cars. If manufacturers now want to sell current cars, why would the FIA / ACO oppose?
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I thought that the GTE-Am one-year rule was asked by manufacturers to allow them to resell GTE-Pro cars.
That's interesting if true considering mid-2010 when this sub division was constructed after the death announcement of GT1, the GT2 market area was much wider (LM24, ILMC, ALMS, LMS, ASLMS, IGTO, Italian GT, Super GT300, FIA GT2 Cup / Spa 24 Hours, Nurburgring 24 Hours, Dubai 24 Hours, Vallelunga 6 Hours, Zolder 24 Hours and some others) than it is now, which meant the mfgs didn't need to rely on artificial tricks like this to sell old cars.

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Little worried for Corvette now for Le Mans after Sebring? May be one of those years they get tails whooped? Seems to be hit or miss for them this decade.
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