ERC Lydden Hill 2009, what's the news? - Page 2

bigted · 20 Mar 2009, 08:15 (Ref:2420001)

Andy Grant - homologation ended
Aiden McCullagh - ineligble - Subaru engine in a Peugeot
Mike Manning - unsure?
Chris Langley - homologation ended
Steve Mundy - unsure?
Christopher Evans - will be there
George Tracey - no chance
John Mckluskey - no car?
David Binks - ineligble - More Than eligible
Brian Jukes - ineligble - spaceframe - Not Spaceframe, but still ineligible
Derrick Jobb - homologation ended - was never Div 1 spec due to dash and exhausts
Eddie Kinirons - unsure?
Tommy Graham - no reason why not!
Mad Mark Watson - see above
Bob Gooding - car not ready? spec at as show wasnt Div 1 - Dash
Pat Doran - will be there
Liam Doran - will be there
Steve Hill - will be there
Michael Morris - homologation ended
Andrew Morris - homologation ended
Paul Pascoe - homologation ended
Paul Grogan - unsure but I think homologation ended
Kyle Orr - unsure
Declan Kelly - unsure
Kevin Procter - will be there
Tony Bardy - spannering maybe!
Simon Horton - homologation ended
Kevin Macan - homologation ended
Will Gollop - not homologated - How isnt a Focus homologated?

WJM · 20 Mar 2009, 11:08 (Ref:2420118)

Eddie Kinirons has Koutnys ex-focus right? So that should be homologated. The Impreza 555 is also still homologated but I don't precisely know what car that is. The Ford Puma is also still homologated so Mike Manning could start if the car is eligible.
Another name I see missing is Tony Bell.

rx-guru · 20 Mar 2009, 11:48 (Ref:2420152)

Copy&paste: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/BA856F8B279699AEC12575240037FF11/$FILE/03_VéhiculesPlusHomologués-4ans_2009_18-11-2008.pdf

List of those cars eligible for int. RX for another 4 years after the expiry of their homologation time (the year under 'Fin').

Hi Low · 20 Mar 2009, 12:24 (Ref:2420180)

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Originally Posted by westfieldbend

and to make you all happy rage buggy's are the support category!!

THIS HAS TO BE A VERY EARLY APRIL FOOLS JOKE. NO WAY. We will be the laugthing stock of Europen Rallycross if they race, no, follow my leader. please some body put an end to this

British Rallycross Can put on a better show than this

Kevin McCann · 20 Mar 2009, 13:51 (Ref:2420234)

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Originally Posted by bigted

Andy Grant - homologation ended
Aiden McCullagh - ineligble - Subaru engine in a Peugeot
Mike Manning - unsure?
Chris Langley - homologation ended
Steve Mundy - unsure?
Christopher Evans - will be there
George Tracey - no chance
John Mckluskey - no car?
David Binks - ineligble - More Than eligible
Brian Jukes - ineligble - spaceframe - Not Spaceframe, but still ineligible
Derrick Jobb - homologation ended - was never Div 1 spec due to dash and exhausts
Eddie Kinirons - unsure?
Tommy Graham - no reason why not!
Mad Mark Watson - see above
Bob Gooding - car not ready? spec at as show wasnt Div 1 - Dash
Pat Doran - will be there
Liam Doran - will be there
Steve Hill - will be there
Michael Morris - homologation ended
Andrew Morris - homologation ended
Paul Pascoe - homologation ended
Paul Grogan - unsure but I think homologation ended
Kyle Orr - unsure
Declan Kelly - unsure
Kevin Procter - will be there
Tony Bardy - spannering maybe!
Simon Horton - homologation ended
Kevin Macan - homologation ended
Will Gollop - not homologated - How isnt a Focus homologated?

According to my paperwork my car is homologated, unless youre not talking about mine!!![ Check spelling, and you Andy should know better].

bigted · 20 Mar 2009, 13:55 (Ref:2420238)

didnt look at spellings

Audi S1 · 20 Mar 2009, 14:26 (Ref:2420250)

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Originally Posted by rx-guru

Copy&paste: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/BA856F8B279699AEC12575240037FF11/$FILE/03_VéhiculesPlusHomologués-4ans_2009_18-11-2008.pdf

List of those cars eligible for int. RX for another 4 years after the expiry of their homologation time (the year under 'Fin').

Any car which was once homologated for FIA events and still in line with current eligibility regs can compete even if the 4 years after homologated end date has pased, providing they get approval off their own countries ASN.

In our case this is the MSA. So all those with older Subaru's, Escort RS2000, Focus's etc can race as long as they comply with dash, weight, restrictor, cat etc etc.

This means the likes of grant, langley, mundy, gollop etc can race..... oh and providing they are happy to pay the £450 for an international license which you need.

I would guess that Bell, Graham, Proctor, Orr, Evans, Binks, Hill, L,Doran, P.Doran will all definately be there.

Hope this helps.

**BertMk2** · 20 Mar 2009, 14:36 (Ref:2420256)

So what will Kyle Orr be driving then?

Audi S1 · 20 Mar 2009, 14:42 (Ref:2420259)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

So what will Kyle Orr be driving then?

His new Ford Focus WRC which he has used in the Irish Champs and bought from Poland in 2007.

**BertMk2** · 20 Mar 2009, 14:44 (Ref:2420260)

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Originally Posted by Audi S1

His new Ford Focus WRC which he has used in the Irish Champs and bought from Poland in 2007.

Aaah, yep - I remember that now. Thanks

schanche · 20 Mar 2009, 18:45 (Ref:2420419)

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Originally Posted by Audi S1

Any car which was once homologated for FIA events and still in line with current eligibility regs can compete even if the 4 years after homologated end date has pased, providing they get approval off their own countries ASN.

In our case this is the MSA. So all those with older Subaru's, Escort RS2000, Focus's etc can race as long as they comply with dash, weight, restrictor, cat etc etc.

This means the likes of grant, langley, mundy, gollop etc can race..... oh and providing they are happy to pay the £450 for an international license which you need.

I would guess that Bell, Graham, Proctor, Orr, Evans, Binks, Hill, L,Doran, P.Doran will all definately be there.

Hope this helps.

Would be good to see those above attending I thought Bell had retired from the sport.Goodings is surely ERC compliant im sure they would build it to compete in the events to show case the open series.Realistically a 40 car entry in division 1 for the first event would be Damm good

rx-guru · 20 Mar 2009, 20:04 (Ref:2420457)

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Originally Posted by Audi S1

Any car which was once homologated for FIA events and still in line with current eligibility regs can compete even if the 4 years after homologated end date has pased, providing they get approval off their own countries ASN.

In our case this is the MSA. So all those with older Subaru's, Escort RS2000, Focus's etc can race as long as they comply with dash, weight, restrictor, cat etc etc.

This means the likes of grant, langley, mundy, gollop etc can race..... oh and providing they are happy to pay the £450 for an international license which you need.

I would guess that Bell, Graham, Proctor, Orr, Evans, Binks, Hill, L,Doran, P.Doran will all definately be there.

Hope this helps.

As I cannot find back your info in the current FIA rules here (page 6, 4. ELIGIBLE VEHICLES):

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/D8DFC6B1F58BCC3BC1257543003EE37E/$FILE/REGS%20RALLYCROSS%202009.pdf

nor here:

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/4DF65BBBA7ABFC2CC12574FF0053C71C/$FILE/279%20(2009)-15112008.pdf

would you please be so kind to let me know where this info was published.

Great White · 20 Mar 2009, 20:21 (Ref:2420473)

If i recall the event was subject to a FIA inspection of the Track and I wondered if this has happend as there seems to be no record of it having been passed, the reason for asking is that at the winter series events there did not seem to be the required protected start line, also was the existing startline to narrow?. Or has this work now been carried out.
Looking forward to it more as the days go by

westfieldbend · 20 Mar 2009, 20:55 (Ref:2420495)

i think the startle is wide enough ( did some measurements with google earth) but it does look a little narrow and putting armco between the startline and paddock bend loose section would invalidate the race circuit license and problem prevent them from getting one again, i dont think they will do that... and the inspection was in late febuary...

WJM · 20 Mar 2009, 21:07 (Ref:2420503)

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Originally Posted by schanche

Would be good to see those above attending I thought Bell had retired from the sport.Goodings is surely ERC compliant im sure they would build it to compete in the events to show case the open series.Realistically a 40 car entry in division 1 for the first event would be Damm good

I didn't know Tony Bell retired. I think you are very optimistic with 40 div1 cars. If there are any more than 25 I would call it a succes.
I'm more worried about the other classes. Which British drivers will be there? Hal Ridge and Julian Godfrey in 1a but after that? It's awfully quiet about Division 2 too. If div1a has 20 drivers and div2 has 10 I'd be happy enough.

**BertMk2** · 20 Mar 2009, 21:44 (Ref:2420525)

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Originally Posted by WJM

I think you are very optimistic with 40 div1 cars. If there are any more than 25 I would call it a succes.

Agreed, looking at the entries from last year 25+ would be good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WJM

I'm more worried about the other classes. Which British drivers will be there? Hal Ridge and Julian Godfrey in 1a but after that? It's awfully quiet about Division 2 too. If div1a has 20 drivers and div2 has 10 I'd be happy enough.

I'm looking forward to the Division 2 heats - the cars that were there at the winter series meets looked great and were spectacular on track. What were entires like last season in Division 2?

HCForums · 20 Mar 2009, 21:54 (Ref:2420539)

Is there any running on Thursday. I'm in the area but only till Thursday, if I would have known when the event was being held I would surely have gone. Only just found out so if there's any testing on Thursday I could maybe make a quick stop. Else I guess I'll have to wait till Maasmechelen.

westfieldbend · 20 Mar 2009, 21:56 (Ref:2420544)

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Originally Posted by HCForums

Is there any running on Thursday. I'm in the area but only till Thursday, if I would have known when the event was being held I would surely have gone. Only just found out so if there's any testing on Thursday I could maybe make a quick stop. Else I guess I'll have to wait till Maasmechelen.

i think that's the press day?

WJM · 20 Mar 2009, 21:58 (Ref:2420550)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

I'm looking forward to the Division 2 heats - the cars that were there at the winter series meets looked great and were spectacular on track. What were entires like last season in Division 2?

These were the numbers during the season for RX-Cup:
3 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 11 - 7 - 6 - 7 - 9 - 10

I think for sure are:
De Keersmaecker
Sterkens
Mertens
Van Den Brandt
Castoral
Muzik
That Swedish guy in an Eriksson Fiesta???

Other possible drivers: Zoll, Habjorg, Ask, Andresen, Freinberger. None of them committed a full season as far as I know. Loov in the Xsara will apparently not drive this year.

schanche · 20 Mar 2009, 22:01 (Ref:2420552)

Heres a thought how about a Ten-tenths area somwhere at the circuit for the weekend

All forum members can meet up or is that a bad thing lol

Beer tent maybe!

**BertMk2** · 20 Mar 2009, 22:04 (Ref:2420553)

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Originally Posted by schanche

All forum members can meet up or is that a bad thing lol

not so sure that's a good idea

schanche · 20 Mar 2009, 22:08 (Ref:2420555)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

not so sure that's a good idea

Dancing around the handbags springs to mind

The Eye · 20 Mar 2009, 23:14 (Ref:2420603)

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Originally Posted by WJM

That Swedish guy in an Eriksson Fiesta???

Is Norwegian Torleif Lona. Torleif will be there despite of team mate Lööv’s unfortunate withdrawal from the ERC. You guy’s would have loved his sideways driving style!!
I think Dan Andersson (Rallykalle) will be there with a RWD Clio II. And maybe Tony Lund Tjelle, N(Dynamitt Tjelle).

StockHatch782 · 21 Mar 2009, 20:48 (Ref:2421440)

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Originally Posted by The Eye

... Lööv’s unfortunate withdrawal from the ERC. You guy’s would have loved his sideways driving style!!

I saw Loov (can't make my computer do the umlaut things on his name, sorry) in the Xsara at the Swedish ERC and I thought he was absolutely awesome! The most entertaining driver in the class and one of the most entertaining of the whole weekend (well, except for the supernationals, obviously). Really good car as well, very different. I missed the news that he was not driving - what are the reasons for that, do we know?

mivec · 21 Mar 2009, 21:02 (Ref:2421457)

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Originally Posted by StockHatch782

I saw Loov (can't make my computer do the umlaut things on his name, sorry) in the Xsara at the Swedish ERC and I thought he was absolutely awesome! The most entertaining driver in the class and one of the most entertaining of the whole weekend (well, except for the supernationals, obviously). Really good car as well, very different. I missed the news that he was not driving - what are the reasons for that, do we know?

ö = shift + ¨ and after that press the o button

Not driving = ££££

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