Delta's Twentea-Twentea Break

[Gerard C]

I seem to remember that the regulation changed when those things were more a F3 on three wheels with two places than a bike. I just tested a regular one for few miles and couldn't cope with the pedals and the riding position!

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

I seem to remember that the regulation changed when those things were more a F3 on three wheels with two places than a bike. I just tested a regular one for few miles and couldn't cope with the pedals and the riding position!

That caused me to remember the name of Owen Greenwood .
He built a racing Sidecar outfit from a Mini Cooper .
2 rear wheels , [ but very close together so only counted as 1 ]. And the driver & passenger sat together like in the front of a normal car . I did see it race once , but I think it got banned at sometime .

[S griffin]

Nice story. Imagine building a sidecar out of a classic car. Actually not a bad idea, but not surprised it got banned

[justracing]

Owen Greenwood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpeCfkniFz0

[Gerard C]

A pure gem, thanks! In France a rumor says that not only the engines were alcohol fed…

[justracing]

Not quite as cool as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR2ndjTXS1Q

[Gerard C]

Ultra clean driving! How do they manage in case of rain? They wait for next shower may be… A full grid looks like a soap opéra… Nice Destop in the pits!

[midgetman]

I remember a "combination" at Loton Park hill climb. It was lethal, basically all the passenger did was just sit there and pray. After he'd been through all his mates, the rider used to go down the nearest pub and challenge the local hard nut while he was still tanked up.

"You reckon you're so hard, come and be my passenger."

This thing was so fast, that the passenger could barely stay on. The weekend we were there the event was suspended while the current hot seat incumbent was ferried to hospital with a broken leg.

Happy days.

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[GORDON STREETER]

I used to work for a motorcycle agent for a while and we had an old 500cc side valve BSA with a frame sidecar to pick up motor bikes. We used to tear up through the town two up riding it on two wheels. Good old days and I'm surprised that I'm still here as "elf n safety" wasn't invented back then.
In the 50s lots of people had motor bikes and when they got married and started having kids several of them would have a sidecar fitted so that they could all go out together, however a lot of them came to grief when first driving their bike with a third wheel and went straight on at the first corner

[GORDON STREETER]

I also did Motocross between car racing and I used to lug my race bike down to Spain and ride it about on the road and up in the mountains. This is me in probably 1980/81 on Mojacar beach. I remember one of the local cops tried to catch me on his patrol bike but it was no match for a tuned 400cc 2 stroke that could get to 70mph in no time, and then I would just go off road into the campo and lose him.

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by justracing

Not quite as cool as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR2ndjTXS1Q

He seemed to have plenty of power on tap but was it enough to plug the gap to the cars in front?

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

A lot of them came to grief when first driving their bike with a third wheel and went straight on at the first corner

There's a name for this: divorce! My Dad explained that it's hard to get used to the same girl every night and that nothing on earth prepares a man to stand noisy and stingy kids. Add to this a third wheel to a wonderful motorbike and you have a "Go fast and far away, Charly, look forward!".

[E.B]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

...however a lot of them came to grief when first driving their bike with a third wheel and went straight on at the first corner

I learnt all about that one on my first tricycle as a kid

[Gerard C]

I dont know who invented the concept of understeering but he has a place of choice au Panthéon des imbéciles!

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

He seemed to have plenty of power on tap but was it enough to plug the gap to the cars in front?

Nice try John , but nobody seems to want to come in with all of the puns , such as " washing away the skid marks " etc .

Perhaps you were a bit too subtle .

[Gerard C]

What puns? It either John is too subtle or we're too thick. May be both?
C'on Biloute, try again I'll be Ponce Pilate!

[justracing]

Goodwill live stream today from the 72nd MM if anyone is interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q221UKFKAOE

[Gerard C]

EB I guess you can buy a second hand car of rental from Hertz for cheap money in your area. Did they have a "classics" division?

[GORDON STREETER]

[QUOTE=Gerard C;3977912]EB I guess you can buy a second hand car of rental from Hertz for cheap money in your area. Did they have a "classics" division?[/QUOTE
I don't think I would buy an ex hire car, I remember a certain team a few years ago that rented one so that they could "borrow" whatever spares they wanted for their race car in an endurance race

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

EB I guess you can buy a second hand car of rental from Hertz for cheap money in your area. Did they have a "classics" division?

I don't think I would buy an ex hire car, I remember a certain team a few years ago that rented one so that they could "borrow" whatever spares they wanted for their race car in an endurance race

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

EB I guess you can buy a second hand car of rental from Hertz for cheap money in your area. Did they have a "classics" division?

Yes, back in the day

From Wikipedia.


"In 1966, Hertz engaged racing and automotive designer Carroll Shelby to develop an exclusive version of his modified Ford Mustang.[53] The objective was to attract more customers to Hertz and the Hertz fleet would tempt car renters to buy a Mustang or a Shelby-Mustang.[54] One thousand GT350H Mustangs were built as rental cars, although urban legend also maintains that many were missing original engines when returned.[55] The "Rent-a-Racer" program was available in selected locations during the late 1960s for a limited time. The fleet has included Corvettes, Jaguar XK-Es, and AMC AMXs.[53] Hertz reintroduced the program in 2016.[56]"


With regard to the last sentence of the quote, this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFIjTEWfBVk


So presumably only classics before they became or become classics.

[Gerard C]

Something we won't see again soon, they have financial difficulties at least on the domestic market:
https://www.ft.com/content/e19f4b5c-...1-6bc1e4624bf3

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

EB I guess you can buy a second hand car of rental from Hertz for cheap money in your area. Did they have a "classics" division?

Yes you can by ex rental cars at auction, but I wouldnt want one.... I might get one I or one of my friends had rented.
As for renting classics, not from regular hire car companies, although you can rent high end modern cars if you are prepared to pay the high end rates plus the insurance costs and excesses.
There are some classic car rental specialists but mainly in the market for longer term (ie not weekend/daily) rentals for things like period TV shows and movie production.

[Gerard C]

We had a bloke specialized in second hand cars and I could put my hands on several buy-back cars, direct from the rental companies before they return to the car maker. I remember several Fiesta's all in the same color and several 505 Turbo, I could chose them amongst hundreds, they were cheap and covered by a guarantee. No issue. Bloke said " With 6000 miles on the odo and the clients we have, if something had to break it's already done!"

[terence]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I don't think I would buy an ex hire car, I remember a certain team a few years ago that rented one so that they could "borrow" whatever spares they wanted for their race car in an endurance race

I know of at least one occasion where a team rented a Sierra Cosworth for the Will hire 24hr.Removed the half cage, bits of tape and body Schutz over the holes and sent back car next day. 😁