Alfa Romeo for 2008

isynge · 7 Dec 2006, 11:56 (Ref:1784010)

Endurance Info are reporting that Alfa Romeo will do a GT2 version of their 8C sportscar.

Highly encouraging in all sorts of ways.

Link is at
http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=2923

Hammerdown · 7 Dec 2006, 12:19 (Ref:1784027)

Now that should be good! Aren't Alfa part of the FIAT group like Ferrari? Wonder if that means they would drop the 430s. I'd obviously rather they ran both!

gwyllion · 7 Dec 2006, 12:26 (Ref:1784033)

Yes, and didn't Maserati have plans to build a legal GT car as well?

So we could have Alfa, Ferrari and Maserati in GT2

andy97 · 7 Dec 2006, 12:46 (Ref:1784052)

Isn't the engine in the 8C based on a Maserati engine?

ASFAIK Maserati have moved from under Ferrar's wing to be in the same Group as Alfa - all under FIAT ownership.

**chunterer** · 7 Dec 2006, 14:01 (Ref:1784151)

In that case surely FIAT's attack will be based around a new Ferrari or Maserati as the GT1 and the glorious 8C Alfa will be the GT2?

The MC12 is ace car but not eligible for everything so surely it makes sense for Fiat to develop a new car to compete with Aston and Corvette in GT1.

As hammerdown suggests, if a Ferrari becomes the new GT1 contender then the logically the Alfa will replace the F430 in GT2?

Much depends on the future of GT1 as the premier GT class i'm sure.

Ebi · 7 Dec 2006, 20:46 (Ref:1784442)

HORNDAWG · 7 Dec 2006, 22:35 (Ref:1784518)

Sectors and products pop up box lower left of page.
http://www.fiatgroup.com/home.php?lang=en

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 7 Dec 2006, 22:47 (Ref:1784524)

Maybe Alfa GT-2, Maserati GT-1 and Ferrari back to just F-1 ???? Highly unlikely!!
L.P.

**chunterer** · 8 Dec 2006, 11:05 (Ref:1785002)

Ebi that is a lovely illustration of how it might look!!

Mmmmm....

Francesco · 8 Dec 2006, 12:21 (Ref:1785069)

i made that illustration... btw if you want i have it in a very big format... so you can print it on a A4 sheet, it looks even better

**chunterer** · 8 Dec 2006, 12:22 (Ref:1785073)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francesco

i made that illustration... btw if you want i have it in a very big format... so you can print it on a A4 sheet, it looks even better

I'll pm you!!

Francesco · 8 Dec 2006, 12:22 (Ref:1785072)

BTW one of the possibility is

-599 GT1 Ferrari
-8C GT2 Alfa
-LMP2 or 1? Maserati

andy97 · 8 Dec 2006, 13:10 (Ref:1785100)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francesco

BTW one of the possibility is

-599 GT1 Ferrari
-8C GT2 Alfa
-LMP2 or 1? Maserati

Now that sounds excellent. I wish for it to be true!

Ebi · 8 Dec 2006, 17:01 (Ref:1785253)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francesco

i made that illustration... btw if you want i have it in a very big format... so you can print it on a A4 sheet, it looks even better

can you send it to me too pls?

leglizone · 13 Dec 2006, 16:37 (Ref:1789948)

I think that new Alfa 8c will not exclude Ferrari 430 Gt2 plans.
430 is very important for Ferrari, finally they have a competitive (and official) car to compete with Porsches, and this is very important for ferrari's market.

Maserati and Alfa Romeo are a company more united than Ferrari and Maserati so I hape that 8c and 430 can coexist.

Ferrari says that they won't built a 599 race version, so i think that the new Maserati coupè will race again in the top class Gt1.

JAG · 13 Dec 2006, 18:33 (Ref:1790016)

I think Maserati will go LMP1 coupe, if they do return.

**FIRE** · 13 Dec 2006, 19:17 (Ref:1790034)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

I think Maserati will go LMP1 coupe, if they do return.

In February Autosport reported Maserati will replace the MC12 with a new GT1 (based on GranSport or Coupe?) for 2007/2008.

Source: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...rt#post1519686

Satorian · 13 Dec 2006, 19:46 (Ref:1790052)

Maserati - GT1
Alfa - GT2

Ferrari - LMP1?

Imagine a Ferrari LMP1 with Schumacher/Raikonnen/Massa/Badoer!

Graham Goodwin · 13 Dec 2006, 22:24 (Ref:1790158)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satorian

Maserati - GT1
Alfa - GT2

Ferrari - LMP1?

Imagine a Ferrari LMP1 with Schumacher/Raikonnen/Massa/Badoer!

And imagine trying to get within 400 metres of their pit garage!

I'd welcome any of the above to Sportscars so long as they checked their F1 attitude in at the gate!

Satorian · 13 Dec 2006, 23:08 (Ref:1790181)

Well, what causes their attitude is what could revitalize sportscar racing in terms of media presence and viewership: They are celebrities.

One of F1's larger appeals is being personality-driven to a great extent. Even people not actively watching F1 usually can drop a few names and know the faces, while they would have problems finding somebody to personally root for with sportscar racing and even if they watched some of it, they wouldn't have anybody at the water cooler to talk about it with.

At least in my nostalgia-tinged opinion it seems sportscar racing had more personalities back in the day when racing was dangerous. Race drivers were much more high-profile media people than they are today.

So, the F1 teams bringing their drivers into LM efforts would do a whole lot of good for media presence, a whole lot of bad for costs and privateers, and will probably remain a dream.

Lusitano · 13 Dec 2006, 23:29 (Ref:1790192)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammerdown

Now that should be good! Aren't Alfa part of the FIAT group like Ferrari? Wonder if that means they would drop the 430s. I'd obviously rather they ran both!

That is the sort of dilema you get this day and age (Porsche and Audi, etc...)
From the spectator point of view, all should race!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

I'd welcome any of the above to Sportscars so long as they checked their F1 attitude in at the gate!

Agreed!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satorian

Well, what causes their attitude is what could revitalize sportscar racing in terms of media presence and viewership: They are celebrities.

Why, then, is Sportscar racing on the up and F1 on the down?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satorian

So, the F1 teams bringing their drivers into LM efforts would do a whole lot of good for media presence, a whole lot of bad for costs and privateers, and will probably remain a dream.

Hopefully, it will remain that way.

TheNewBob · 14 Dec 2006, 02:52 (Ref:1790244)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satorian

One of F1's larger appeals is being personality-driven to a great extent.

F1 has been without a real "personality" for a long, long time...

Satorian · 14 Dec 2006, 04:47 (Ref:1790275)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lusitano

Why, then, is Sportscar racing on the up and F1 on the down?

Proof?

And even if it was relatively true, what are the absolute viewing ratings and attendance numbers? How many major stations carry F1 in each country and how many do the same with FIA GT or LMS or ALMS? Sportscar popularity is still a far cry from F1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewBob

F1 has been without a real "personality" for a long, long time...

I think that's nostalgia talking. Who do you consider the last F1 personalities and in which way did they differ from today's F1 drivers, especially the more prominent ones?

Graham Goodwin · 14 Dec 2006, 07:11 (Ref:1790328)

Seriously try asking people who aren't interested in f1 why that is.

The kind of answers you should expect are

The racing is dull and when the drivers speak it sounds like a statement from a government minister.

The bald facts are that the busuness / sport balance in F1 has tipped way too far in favour of business interest and the results are obvious.

As for an examination of viewing figures - just have a quick google search on the subject - you'll find that in many of f1s established markets they have been losing viewers. And that's despite the fact that around 99 of every $100 spent in Europe on motorsport marketing focus on F1 -

Lusitano · 14 Dec 2006, 13:30 (Ref:1790619)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Seriously try asking people who aren't interested in f1 why that is.

The kind of answers you should expect are

The racing is dull and when the drivers speak it sounds like a statement from a government minister.

The bald facts are that the busuness / sport balance in F1 has tipped way too far in favour of business interest and the results are obvious.

As for an examination of viewing figures - just have a quick google search on the subject - you'll find that in many of f1s established markets they have been losing viewers. And that's despite the fact that around 99 of every $100 spent in Europe on motorsport marketing focus on F1 -

Agreed with every phrase!

One of the reasons I like Sportscar racing is because of the variety of cars/makes involved.
The Alfa would only add to the excitement!

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