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Old 15 Jan 2021, 10:42 (Ref:4029191)   #1
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TCR Australia 2021

Since 2020 was a bit of a flop...

What we know so far:

Title Sponsor - Supercheap Auto
Secondary Sponsors - Total, Panta
TV deal - Ch7

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Luke King MPC Audi
Chaz Mostert MPC Audi (partial season)
Liam McAdam Audi
Nathan Morcom HMO Hyundai
TBA HMO Hyundai
TBA HMO Hyundai
Michael King DashSport Hyundai
Brad Shiels Tilton Hyundai
Michael Clemente Honda
Zac Soutar Honda
Tony D'Alberto Wall Racing Honda
John Martin Wall Racing Honda
James Moffat GRM Renault
Dylan O'Keeffe GRM Renault
Aaron Cameron GRM Peugeot
Ben Bargwanna GRM Peugeot
Jason Bargwanna GRM Peugeot
Jordan Cox GRM Alfa Romeo
Michael Caruso GRM Alfa Romeo
Lee Holdsworth ASM Alfa Romeo
Jay Hansen AMS Alfa Romeo

Ms Angelo, and a few others to be confirmed.

Still several cars laying dormant, including 1 Renault, a Honda or two, 2 Astras, 2 Audis, and 2 Golfs.
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Old 15 Jan 2021, 15:17 (Ref:4029253)   #2
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It doesn't look bad. We have variety of cars, drivers with experience in different categories, TV production looked good last year, it should be enjoyable to watch.
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Old 17 Jan 2021, 06:06 (Ref:4029565)   #3
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No VWs ,there are three in the country.
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Old 17 Jan 2021, 11:29 (Ref:4029594)   #4
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It was somewhat interesting to note the cross promotion there was during the cricket today.

Apparently as much as everyone hates it, it's actually effective for the tv stations.

As much as the series is known by us and other fans who engage in domestic motorsport. For a lot of people that are inclined to like car racing, those cross promotions would be the first glimpse they've ever had of the series.

I personally think it was a bit early to go to a commercial tv station. It kind of allows C7 the opportunity to mess about with it before the class firmly established itself in Australia. But we'll see how it goes.
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Old 18 Jan 2021, 06:43 (Ref:4029794)   #5
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Josh Buchan HMO Hyundai
Chelsea Angelo MPC VW, from Philip Island onwards.
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Old 18 Jan 2021, 08:15 (Ref:4029802)   #6
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18 cars at Symmons in January after nothing in 2020 is a pretty good effort.

How many TCR cars are going to the non-championship race meeting at Baskerville the weekend after?
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Old 18 Jan 2021, 23:39 (Ref:4029946)   #7
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18 cars at Symmons in January after nothing in 2020 is a pretty good effort.

How many TCR cars are going to the non-championship race meeting at Baskerville the weekend after?
hopefully all the cars that remain straight once Symmons is complete, minus The Chaz
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Old 19 Jan 2021, 02:04 (Ref:4029951)   #8
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Mr Pother could be a factor.

I'm sure the promotors would love to see a Coke car.
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Old 19 Jan 2021, 04:29 (Ref:4029956)   #9
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Mr Pother could be a factor.

I'm sure the promotors would love to see a Coke car.
Could be his only option at this stage.
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Mr Pother could be a factor.

I'm sure the promotors would love to see a Coke car.
Any spare GRM Meganes?
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Old 19 Jan 2021, 10:51 (Ref:4029998)   #11
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Interesting that in a recent video of their on fb, Greg Rust mentions that there's multiple makes, like it's specific feature of the series. That should just be normal and not thought of as something distinct.
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Old 19 Jan 2021, 11:01 (Ref:4030000)   #12
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Yeah, one.
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Old 19 Jan 2021, 12:03 (Ref:4030008)   #13
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Interesting that in a recent video of their on fb, Greg Rust mentions that there's multiple makes, like it's specific feature of the series. That should just be normal and not thought of as something distinct.
Well that is singing from the TCR songbook. Noonz rabbitted on and on about the number of manufacturers all through 2019, obviously trying to put the boot into Supercars with their lack of manufacturers.
The number of manufacturers is something TCR can crow about, rather than the quality of the drivers, the cars, the crowds etc etc which is obviously inferior to Supercars.
You emphasize your strengths when marketing, not your shortcomings.
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Well that is singing from the TCR songbook. Noonz rabbitted on and on about the number of manufacturers all through 2019, obviously trying to put the boot into Supercars with their lack of manufacturers.
The number of manufacturers is something TCR can crow about, rather than the quality of the drivers, the cars, the crowds etc etc which is obviously inferior to Supercars.
You emphasize your strengths when marketing, not your shortcomings.
I should think they need to use the word 'brands' rather than 'manufacturers' as to imply manufacturer involvement in most TCRA teams may be not quite correct. Buying a car from a tuner means you are running a 'brand' of car after all...
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Old 20 Jan 2021, 02:29 (Ref:4030149)   #15
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Well that is singing from the TCR songbook. Noonz rabbitted on and on about the number of manufacturers all through 2019,
I remember it being more that Greg Rust did it. **** he's horrible.

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obviously trying to put the boot into Supercars with their lack of manufacturers.
Well, I don't know about obvious. Laying the boots into supercars is pretty easy that you can do it without actually doing it. After all, it's is an entertainment product using car racing as a conduit for that entertainment. As opposed to a legit car racing series.

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The number of manufacturers is something TCR can crow about,
Idk about crowing about. After all, unless it gets to a wild figure of 10+, it should just be normal.

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rather than the quality of the drivers,
Nope, the drivers are fine. They're of a sufficient level.

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the cars,
No, the cars are. People like them.

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the crowds
On the contrary, they can. Their presence accounted for an enormous jump in attendance at Shannons Nationals rounds. As a percentage, possibly the biggest increase for any domestic motor racing attendance ever in Australia.

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etc which is obviously inferior to Supercars.
Once again, Idk about "obviously". If it's inferior, then it's negligible. Supercars has a bigger commercial presence, but it's got a 22 year head start. It also is has a higher percentage of supercars fans, which is different from car racing fans.

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Well, yeah. But it's like the AFL saying that AFL teams play in the AFL.
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Old 20 Jan 2021, 02:56 (Ref:4030154)   #16
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I remember it being more that Greg Rust did it. **** he's horrible.


Well, I don't know about obvious. Laying the boots into supercars is pretty easy that you can do it without actually doing it. After all, it's is an entertainment product using car racing as a conduit for that entertainment. As opposed to a legit car racing series.


Idk about crowing about. After all, unless it gets to a wild figure of 10+, it should just be normal.


Nope, the drivers are fine. They're of a sufficient level.

No, the cars are. People like them.


On the contrary, they can. Their presence accounted for an enormous jump in attendance at Shannons Nationals rounds. As a percentage, possibly the biggest increase for any domestic motor racing attendance ever in Australia.

Once again, Idk about "obviously". If it's inferior, then it's negligible. Supercars has a bigger commercial presence, but it's got a 22 year head start. It also is has a higher percentage of supercars fans, which is different from car racing fans.

Well, yeah. But it's like the AFL saying that AFL teams play in the AFL.

Far out imagine just worrying about TCR, instead of bagging out Supercars. Nothing you say adds any value to the conversation, just trying to bait people into arguments...
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Old 20 Jan 2021, 07:50 (Ref:4030180)   #17
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Imagine having the time to quote a post, and dissect it almost down to single words. Some people need a life.
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Old 20 Jan 2021, 18:34 (Ref:4030320)   #18
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Holdsworth fastest in P1, leading an Alfa 1-4 quartet.
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Holdsworth fastest again in P2.

The Hondas are seemingly nowhere.
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Old 25 Jan 2021, 00:47 (Ref:4031021)   #21
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Imagine having the time to quote a post, and dissect it almost down to single words. Some people need a life.
If you read it, you'd see that ol' mate Juarez made 8 points, and I addressed them all.

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Imagine having the time to quote a post, and dissect it almost down to single words. Some people need a life.
Me?

How bad am I going when a guy who pays attention to tcr practice sessions is suggesting that I get a life?

Is watching American football on a Monday sufficient to get ratio into the positive?
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Speaking of Juarez and his knowledge of marketing. I'm sure he'd agree with me when watching the cross promotion in the cricket that a weakness of the promotion is that it's being referred to as "TCR Australia"?'

The name means nothing for most people at first glance. You have to push the "brand" then you have to push what it is. Most people couldn't care less about the acronym.

Whereas if it was called "2 litre touring car series" or "2 litre Car racing series", people instantly get what it is.

The 5 hour broadcast for tomorrow is another idea I'm not sure about? There'll be a lot of deadtime, and if the spectacle on track isn't what is hoped to be, it'll probably put people off.
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just trying to bait people into arguments...
Don't post in response to anything he writes. It is a pity Peckstar is no longer here, they would have an awesome debate!
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Watching the stream now
Its a good package especially with TCM
S5000, tcr, tcm, tranzam and excel silliness.
Makes for an entertaining afternoon with variety.

Supercars needs to look at its support card, need more than supercars, last years supercars, and even older supercars, and pickup trucks

Strange decision to race on a monday thats not a public holiday
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