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27 Jul 2005, 21:36 (Ref:1365070)
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IRL quality of drivers?
Is the IRL an easy series to enter. I mean is it like you turn up with a few $$$$ and your in a seat somwhere?
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27 Jul 2005, 23:16 (Ref:1365131)
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I don't belive so.
I think basicly that there is alot of manufacturer money in the series, which, good or bad the "other" series doesn't have, and all this manufacturer money means that there arn't as many pay drivers as the "other series" in my humble opinion. |
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27 Jul 2005, 23:30 (Ref:1365137)
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Look at their line-up and for the overwhelming majority of the teams, they have solid drivers....
Manning was the first driver pulled from a seat this season that wasn't due to injury... Other series (sportscars, OWRS, some stock car teams) have fired or released drivers from rides very early on in the season... I think that some guys are less quality that others...and some may not belong...but I also think you could say that about any series... |
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28 Jul 2005, 02:27 (Ref:1365194)
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that being said, show up with money, and Dryer & Reinbold or Fernandez will field an extra car for you or you could buy Patrick's cars & equipment (they're still for sale) or a team like Playa Del Racing or Schmidt would be glad to run a full-season program if you come with sponsorship.
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28 Jul 2005, 05:51 (Ref:1365256)
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No more so than in any other form of racing though.
The top 10-15 IRL drivers are very good. Some of the remainder are very bad. But the overall level is solid. |
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28 Jul 2005, 09:02 (Ref:1365356)
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Like any other championship really. There's a top echelon, filling the top 10-13 places, and from then on there may be pay drivers. Or not.
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28 Jul 2005, 10:15 (Ref:1365391)
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No matter how much money you bring, and how desperate a team is for it, you still have to pass a rookie test to be allowed onto the grid, so it isn't easy at all. This year's grid has drivers who've succeeded in ChampCars, F3000, Atlantics, Formula Nippon, DTM, US FFord, MIPS, World Series, and basically everything except Formula 1. A few of the guys down the grid are there because they have more money than other would-be drivers, but nobody's further off the pace than some of the F1 pay-drivers this year.
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28 Jul 2005, 13:04 (Ref:1365554)
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well said boots
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28 Jul 2005, 13:10 (Ref:1365560)
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It's a very difficult series to get into, and an ever harder one to stay in. Drivers who haven't achieved anything elsewhere have little chance no matter how much money they bring. Dan,if you're looking to build a career with money but no talent, try another series.
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28 Jul 2005, 13:18 (Ref:1365574)
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28 Jul 2005, 17:09 (Ref:1365750)
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As Boots said, the bulk of the field now is very good, with proven track records in various series - CCWS, F3000, Atlantics, F3 etc. In terms of strength in depth IRL IndyCar has never had it so good. That wasn't the case in the first five or six years, when far too many nobodies filled out the entry lists.
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28 Jul 2005, 19:27 (Ref:1365893)
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true Jondownunder but strangely enough thats the way i preferred it
I loved seeing the Billy Boats, Jimmy Kites and the dave Kudraves of this world have a go at a top echelon of the sport. some may ***** and moan abouyt the quality of drivers but frankly they havent seen the cockpit of a race car themselves and wouldnt know squat. unless you have raced competively i dont think you have a right to comment on a drivers ability at all. some of the guys down the back of the grid may not be race winners but they would blow any single one of us away in a heartbeat in any race car (unless your Michael Schumacher posting in disguise) in any race someone has to finish last but he is still a very good driver even if he paid to get there. I think the IRL is a good example of drivers with some good talent in various classes coming together and providing some very exciting racing. they all are welcome there and deserving to be tere in my books (and I have raced competitively for the past 6 years ) |
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28 Jul 2005, 19:30 (Ref:1365899)
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28 Jul 2005, 19:38 (Ref:1365918)
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fair points KB
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28 Jul 2005, 19:53 (Ref:1365941)
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I think that we have every right to complain if a driver is not doing well, especially when there are better drivers who we support that are unable to enter the formula due to the poor driver's presence and I would stick to this view not just when discussing the IRL.
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28 Jul 2005, 20:12 (Ref:1365970)
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