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26 Mar 2004, 21:42 (Ref:920566) | #1 | ||
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Will there ever be women F1 drivers?
I do not follow any other motor sports but have come accross the names of women drivers in lower formulas. i read an interview with a woman called Suzzie Stoddard who is entering GP2 which supposedly follows into F1 and she felt if she works hard this year she will have a good chance of getting into F1.
If anyone would like to explain GP2 that would be great but my real question is do you think it is likely to see women drivers compete in F1 and is this something you would like to see? Remember there are quite a few female posters here so no sexism please. |
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26 Mar 2004, 21:50 (Ref:920570) | #3 | |
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Don't forget Desire Wilson (early 80's)
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So that's four women F1 drivers so far then. Any more? Hamssmith you may like to study the history of F1 a little more?? Better still, take more notice of the lower formulas where women regularly race. |
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There was Maria Teresa de Filipis back in the 50s. The only women to actually qualify are de Filipis and Lombardi. And lombardi was the only woman to score points when she got a half point in the 1976 spanish gp which was stopped early, hence half points. Desire Wilson did win a non-championship race (part of the British aurora series) back in the early 80s. Wilson and Lombardi both won world championship sports car rounds as well
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26 Mar 2004, 22:30 (Ref:920609) | #7 | ||
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i wasnt actually looking for history but took your advice and checked out history. Autosport.com holds a database of every f1 driver since 1950.
Galliicia no points Lombardi 0.5 points Amatti no points Willson no points Also came across Nicola Larini scored 7 points raced as recently as 1997 i am only assuming 'Nicola' is female. Back to my point. I'm not looking for female drivers of the past or in general so i do not need to follow lower formulas i am looking for oppinions about the future of F1 and if that future will/should include women. Thanx for info anyway |
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Speaking as a woman, F1 is a very physically demanding sport and I personally don't think women are designed to cope with the G forces encountered in modern day F1 but if anyone else has any other comments on the subject I'd be pleased to discuss them. |
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The good thing is what we have is "World Drivers Championship", and not "World Male Drivers Championship", so yes, if there are female drivers in F1, who can get into F1, it should not be frowned upon.
However, we must be cautious not to be artificial. Drivers ought to get into F1 due to skills/performance, and sex/race/age/status shouldn't be a factor. If a lady earned her seat, great for her, but i won't want Bernie or any teams to drag in a girl just for publicity's sake. |
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Not sure if I agree totally with that Sheila
I agree that it is quiet physical, but I dont doubt there are women up for the job. Its simple mathematics. There are 20 seats on the F1 grid. Very very very few top drivers get the chance. Only 3 or 4 seats become available every year. To get one of the 4 available seats, statistically 25% of the drivers would need to be women. However, we will see women in F1 again. You just have to work out the probability (which is quiet low) that one of that small % demographic falls into that even smaller % of drivers that is talented and lucky enough to get the chance. |
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I believe, and hope, that there will be women drivers in F1 soon, hopefully at least within the next 10 years. At least on the calender side of things, F1 is supposedly "broadening its horizons", and IMO this should apply to drivers as well. As many nationalities, races, religions, etc. as possible, and such thinking includes both sexes as well. It's in the championship's best interest (particularly seeing as its unfortunately become a dressed-up marketing stage) to appeal and reach as many people across the world as possible, and a woman driver I'm sure would get plenty of support from women across the globe (and, dare I say it, if she's fit, a lot of men too! ) Having said that though... Quote:
Just a small selection of the top women in motorsport atm, with a small chance at F1: Sarah Fisher Huge fanbase in the US. Took an impressive pole at Kentucky a few years back, but seems to be stuck in midfield obscurity atm, but IMO that's down to being in an anonymous team and not her driving. Is the latest women to drive an F1 car - a McLaren at Indianapolis in 2002. But that was more for promo purposes than anything else. And is an all oval series really the right place to be for a link to F1? Susie Stoddart Guess who's my favourite of on this list Being on the Autosport Award shortlist (and putting in a good performance in it) will boost her morale and reputation. This will be a make or break year for her in FRenault, and hopefully if she can go well in GP2 in '05 she'll raise a bit of interest in F1. Unlike Fisher, she's on the right ladder for European style racing to achieve F1. Vanina Ickx Daughter of one of the legends of motorsport. Currently racing in (I think) FRenault V6, a feeder category to F1. But is she there more thanks to her gender and illustrious surname? Results thus far may suggest so, unfortuntely Oh, and Linda Rose Last edited by crozier74; 26 Mar 2004 at 23:43. |
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I think Vanina might be a bit old? She has been about for ages in GT and Sportscars and all sorts.
Susie has to be the favourite, she is definately the best female driver out there but I dont think it would befair to pass up many male drivers who are better then her simply because she is female. |
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27 Mar 2004, 00:25 (Ref:920732) | #13 | ||
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Sarah Fisher has excellent abilities to qualify a car, but she seems to buckle under pressure of the race. Her McLaren drive was through Tag Heuer, they used her fan base as a huge push at the 2002 USGP. Danica Patrick is working up to a Champ Car bid, but that might soon end with Rahal going over to IRL. But even the series here (Nascar had Shawna Robinson a few years ago, but couldn't land a sponsor)have trouble keeping people interested in women drivers.
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27 Mar 2004, 01:25 (Ref:920773) | #14 | ||
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Fighter planes are far more physically demanding then F1 cars are. And women do just fine as pilots, so I should think that driving a F1 car wouldn't be that big of a deal to a woman who is fit.
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27 Mar 2004, 01:34 (Ref:920780) | #15 | ||
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I'd love to see a woman in F1, but they just don't seem to take off. They do in Champcars/IRL though, so maybe someone should bring one over.
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27 Mar 2004, 07:26 (Ref:920973) | #16 | ||
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Actually, was watching a Docco and they found that in terms of G Forces, womens bodies actually cope better in the extreme G conditions, so I don't see F1 G forces being a problem.
Secondly, a woman's body is better than a guys from an F1 engineers point of view as they have more weight to their hips and less at the upper trunk / bust, as well as arms and head in general. They're also generally a little shorter. From a designer's point of view, this is ideal. In a modern F1 car, your hips are your lowest point in the car so you have a lower COG. Which is very handy. Generally a woman driver also should fit easier into a car. Just ask Justin Wilson about how important this actually is in F1. It is purely a demographic and interest thing. Until Women are as interested in racing as men, the chances of female driver's appearing is less. But thankfully, they're starting to come in. I've seen women drag car drivers and drifters, etc so I hope the day comes where they appear in numbers. However, my reasons aren't entirely all for the good of mankind and all that. I'd simply like to meet a girl who's eyes wouldn't glaze over the moment I mention racing. |
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27 Mar 2004, 07:30 (Ref:920976) | #17 | ||
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If I get my way I'll be in one!!
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Lyn St James managed to qualify 6th at Indy one year - just in front of Mansell, and Sarah Fisher is indeed a great qualifier.
The danger is that the next woman to reach F1 will only get there due to the right backing, and will prove to be no better than Baumgartner and the like, which could put teams off hiring future women who prove fast enough. Danika's probably the best right now, and she has friends in high places, so maybe she can get a decent career together. That Nicola Larini thing made me laugh - I remember assuming he was a woman myself when I first started watching F1. |
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27 Mar 2004, 11:34 (Ref:921148) | #20 | ||
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Thanx for admitting you thought Nicola was a woman too. I don't feel as much of an @rse
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they shouldn't have as much discomfort from crutch straps
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For fear of sounding sexist, which is not my intention.
I could imagine a team lower down the grid taking on a female driver, imagine the spotlight it would bring to the team and its sponsers, but i doubt that a top team would ever want to, or indeed need to when they can have the pick of the best male drivers out there. |
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27 Mar 2004, 12:34 (Ref:921181) | #24 | ||
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Maybe its better to first have an all-women race class, cause in most sports women and men competitions are seperate events. In all fairness i dont think a woman really can compete with a man in f-1, due to physical (not mental! :-) differencies.
And doesn't it sound beautiful to have names like Jacqueline Villeneuve, Josephine Verstappen and Michele Schumacher. love, bridget |
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Sorry Bridget,but its already been proved that women have no pysical disadvantage,only financial.
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