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Old 1 Mar 2019, 18:47 (Ref:3887648)   #61
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Hope that makes sense?
Indeed Mike, indeed.
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Old 1 Mar 2019, 19:13 (Ref:3887657)   #62
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I thought I'd give the new service a try, surprisingly it all worked well as far as I got until I decided not complete the registration form from where they wanted the vin#. How odd, something from the gubberment that works
It didn’t like the vin # I put in, even though correct for the make! I selected ‘other manufacturer’ or whatever the non specific choice was, then it accepted the vin..... But apart from that, all smooth going.

Completely off topic, but still a gubberment department, I’ve managed to complete 3 ‘Making Tax Digital’ Vat registrations as well this week without any website crashing.....
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 10:41 (Ref:3899944)   #63
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So, during a drive to Kent and back, including a comfort break at the jewel of the M25- Thurrock Services, I made a point of checking all the mainland Europe trailers that I could, and not one, I repeat, NOT ONE, had a unique trailer registration plate. In fact, the only ones I’ve seen were on the back of British race trucks at Barcelona......

Have we been conned?
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 10:54 (Ref:3899946)   #64
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I think you have I've only noticed one trailer reg plate on a UK truck since all this has been mentioned
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 10:59 (Ref:3899947)   #65
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The regulations in several countries of Europ state that a trailer must have its own registration plate when above 750 kilos. May be Italy request the addition of the towing vehicle number (one Rimorchio and another). I think impossible that a great number of truckers dont follow the rules when driving in the UK. I guess I didn't understand your point, sorry if the case.
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 11:29 (Ref:3899956)   #66
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No, you haven’t misunderstood! We were told by our authority that all EU countries (except Spain, Malta, Cyprus & Liechtenstein) had signed up to the ‘1968 Vienna convention on road transport’ and that trailers over 750kg would have to be registered, then display that registration plate. All this from the end of March. But, unless the plates I saw on the back of trailers from virtually every E Europe country, Germany, Netherlands etc., this morning were different to the tow vehicle number, none had them......

Very strange!
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 11:44 (Ref:3899961)   #67
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More than strange you mean. Think "was it the case before" is not a good question atm. I'm not experimented enough to go back to '68 but do remember all my trailers were registered as a vehicle, had their proper insurance and the relevant number displayed at rear. What I dont do is to show the max limit speed when towing, recently changed here. And depending on the max circulating weight allowed to the towing vehicle to make things simple…
If my understanding is good, if you tow with say a 3 series Bimmer you can go to 110 kph on the highways, downgraded to 90 kph is its a 5 series! Madness!
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This may possibly be one of those cases in the EU that although all countries may have signed up for a particular piece of legislation, it is up to the individual member states when that legislation is incorporated into it's own statutes.

As far as the UK is concerned, because we are supposed to be leaving the EU, it has meant that all the EU legislation that had been passed by Brussels but that had not yet been incorporated had to be included on the UK's statute book before the 29th March 2019. The theory is that the UK Parliament will then go through all that legislation at some time in the future to decide whether they wish to repeal such legislation..

It may be that other EU member states have yet to incorporate this particular bit of legislation in to their own laws.

Hope that I haven't confused the reader too much! And I think that this may not be the only anomaly that will appear in the years to come!
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 12:56 (Ref:3899985)   #69
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I did wonder if it was something like that- it actually makes sense, Mike!
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Old 27 Apr 2019, 13:40 (Ref:3899995)   #70
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I did wonder if it was something like that- it actually makes sense, Mike!

And if my supposition actually is correct, Mike, it makes an absolute nonsense of the myth that the UK "needs" to take back control of our law making. I believe that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of bits of legislation that the EU has passed in the last 42 years that the UK hadn't, like a lot of other EU members, incorporated in our own law books.

That was until the UK decided to leave!
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No, you haven’t misunderstood! We were told by our authority that all EU countries (except Spain, Malta, Cyprus & Liechtenstein) had signed up to the ‘1968 Vienna convention on road transport’ and that trailers over 750kg would have to be registered, then display that registration plate. All this from the end of March. But, unless the plates I saw on the back of trailers from virtually every E Europe country, Germany, Netherlands etc., this morning were different to the tow vehicle number, none had them......

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Germany, France, Belgium and others have different a registration plate on the trailer to the tractor as they all require separate registration and have done for years, they don't have an individual plate as the Italians do, and the UK now should do.
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Germany, France, Belgium and others have different a registration plate on the trailer to the tractor as they all require separate registration and have done for years, they don't have an individual plate as the Italians do, and the UK now should do.
That could explain a lot! I know the Italian and Spanish trailers show two plates at the back, but it’s almost impossible to see the tractor plate and trailer plate at the same time on an artic to know if they’re different.....

The fact that the new regulation came in on March 28th, the day before we were due to leave the EU, gives Mike’s suggestion credibility as well.
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I find quite understandable that the UK wants its own rules, circulation and others. Its already the case with the left side of driving. It wouldn't come up to any foreign mind to say "I'm not English, I'll drive on the right not on the left". And vice versa. I seem to recall that back at the end of the fifties having a driving licence and car insurance was not mandatory in Belgium. Stand to be corrected about that.
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Old 27 Aug 2019, 17:19 (Ref:3924383)   #74
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Appears that consideration was being given to an annual test for all trailers over 750kg gross weight, but sounds like it’s not going to happen...

https://www.ukhaulier.co.uk/news/roa...safety-review/
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The variations on motoring rules between EU countries was highlighted again for me when in the Netherlands last weekend - I visited some Dutch friends who had recently been over to our Imp National weekend - to which they bring their Imp on a custom-made A-frame towed behind their Bedford CF motorhome (fitted with Rover V8 engine ). I was discussing the relative costs of the ferries - particularly Hull-Rotterdam versus Dover-Calais, and my friends remarked that Dover-Calais route whilst relatively cheap was more or less ruled out as the A-frame towing was illegal in Belgium so they'd have to take a very circuitous route......
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