EX F3000 Chassis currently sprinting?

**chunterer** · 4 Dec 2007, 18:37 (Ref:2081562)

Folks, i'm not all that knowledgeable on the sprinting and hillclimbing world but can anyone help me track down any ex F3000 chassis preferably still competing with 3.0 Cossie/Mugen/Judd engines?

I'm thinking of starting some research into F3000 and understand that several Reynards and Lolas might still be competing today, particularly in the sprinting fraternity.

Any pointers appreciated!!

Cheers

Chunty

Steve Wilkinson · 4 Dec 2007, 19:15 (Ref:2081579)

The Eyles brother have two Lolas but neither has the 3 litre engine still in place.

Martin Dowling sold his Reynard 12 months ago.

There is a Reynard in the South West but that has a 3.3 litre Cossie in the back.

So basically no proper F3000 cars still in the sport!

U can always check the BSC website (www.britishsprint.org) to check on chassis numbers!

rescue dude · 4 Dec 2007, 19:16 (Ref:2081580)

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Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

The Eyles brother have two Lolas but neither has the 3 litre engine still in place.

Martin Dowling sold his Reynard 12 months ago.

There is a Reynard in the South West but that has a 3.3 litre Cossie in the back.

So basically no proper F3000 cars still in the sport!

I was going to attempt an answer to this but i knew the oracle would be along soon.

**chunterer** · 4 Dec 2007, 19:33 (Ref:2081587)

Thanks Steve!

What about Roger Kilty - did he race and sprint a Reynard with an 3.0v8?

Mekola · 4 Dec 2007, 20:47 (Ref:2081625)

Well, ex-World Series by Nissan racer Ander Vilariño raced an ex-F. Nippon Reynard 99L for a hillclimb championship sometime ago. Chanoch Nissany did the same with his World Series Light Dallara in Hungarian hillclimb races before and after his short F1 testing campaign. You could see info of both at Szasz Motorsport website.
Also it was a slightly modified Lola T96/50 on hillclimbs too, that could be appreciated on this website: http://www.f3000.ch

**chunterer** · 5 Dec 2007, 08:28 (Ref:2081867)

Hey, thanks Mekola, i'll check it out.

Might need the cars to be currently based in the UK though?

Steve Wilkinson · 5 Dec 2007, 09:31 (Ref:2081914)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Thanks Steve!

What about Roger Kilty - did he race and sprint a Reynard with an 3.0v8?

Yes, it was the one he raced on the BOSS series. It is currently for sale at Cheshire Classics with Damon Milnes.

**chunterer** · 5 Dec 2007, 09:43 (Ref:2081926)

Thanks, again Steve.

Is there any possibility that there might be any cars even not currently in use somehwere in the Midlands?

Steve Wilkinson · 5 Dec 2007, 10:55 (Ref:2081972)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Thanks, again Steve.

Is there any possibility that there might be any cars even not currently in use somehwere in the Midlands?

Going back to 2000 and working forward, as well as those cars posted earlier the following took part in the BSC:

Peter Griffiths - 89D Reynard - car sold to Japan.
John Garnett - 94D Reynard - car sold to ?
Ken Dundee - 89D Reynard - unknown (Ken is based in Northern Ireland)
Mark Harrison - 93D Reynard - car sold to France

As for F3000 cars lurking in the Midlands the only one I know of is a Reynard (I think it is a 93 or 94 car) - the current owner is planning to install an oversized engine (Cosworth DFL I think) and then sprint it.

rescue dude · 5 Dec 2007, 11:54 (Ref:2082023)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Thanks, again Steve.

Is there any possibility that there might be any cars even not currently in use somehwere in the Midlands?

Steve have the Woodhouse bros still got one or two knocking about or have they sold them?

**chunterer** · 5 Dec 2007, 16:17 (Ref:2082195)

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Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

As for F3000 cars lurking in the Midlands the only one I know of is a Reynard (I think it is a 93 or 94 car) - the current owner is planning to install an oversized engine (Cosworth DFL I think) and then sprint it.

Well that'll do for a start - do you know if the guy's still got a spec 3000 engine in the back? If not it doesn't necessarily matter - a DFL would sound pretty much the same on tick over I reckon....

Steve Wilkinson · 5 Dec 2007, 19:56 (Ref:2082348)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Well that'll do for a start - do you know if the guy's still got a spec 3000 engine in the back? If not it doesn't necessarily matter - a DFL would sound pretty much the same on tick over I reckon....

It was bought withgout the engine. Currently the DFL is installed in his other car! Don't know when the removal and installation will be happening but I can ask.

What is it for?

Steve Wilkinson · 5 Dec 2007, 19:57 (Ref:2082350)

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Originally Posted by rescue dude

Steve have the Woodhouse bros still got one or two knocking about or have they sold them?

No idea! Not seen the Brothers for some time.

b1ackcr0w · 5 Dec 2007, 23:25 (Ref:2082487)

The Speed world tends to go for F3 more than anything else Chunters, you might have more luck with Monoposto & BOSS?

Megashed Teaboy · 6 Dec 2007, 06:35 (Ref:2082594)

Time for me to put Mr W right for a change, i know it does not happen very often so im going to milk it!!!

James Belton had a 93D Cosworth AC did one sprint in it at Pembrey, this was an ex John Garnett car and he went on to win Euro Boss 3000 in it.

Roger Kilty only did one sprint in his Boss car and was beaten by an OMS and F3 Dallara (with ace race engineer) this car was put together by Terry Clifford but he only tested it once.

Pete Griffiths car went to America not Japan

Ken Dundee's Car was an 88d not 89d

Mark Harrisons car has recently been re sold

Ther are 3 f3000 reynards in the Coventry area, one in full spec f3000, one in bits and one with possibly DFR or Judd in.

The Woodhouse brothers have 2 Lola T90/50's one fitted with a DFR one fitted with Le Mans Jaguar XJR9 engine.

There are no ex f3000 cars in Monopsoto as it would be to much of a conversion job. Not sure in Boss now as the series is not going very well.

Hope this helps a bit.

Cheers

Rich

Monoposto Race Engineer of the year 2007

**chunterer** · 6 Dec 2007, 09:13 (Ref:2082641)

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Originally Posted by Megashed Teaboy

James Belton had a 93D Cosworth AC did one sprint in it at Pembrey, this was an ex John Garnett car and he went on to win Euro Boss 3000 in it.

Does he still have it or do you know of it's wherabouts?

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Originally Posted by Megashed Teaboy

Mark Harrisons car has recently been re sold

Is it still in the UK, preferably Midlands?

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Originally Posted by Megashed Teaboy

There are 3 F3000 Reynards in the Coventry area, one in full spec F3000, one in bits and one with possibly DFR or Judd in.

I'd like to know bit more about the full spec car in Cov please. Could you pm me as i'd love to contact the owners for my research.

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Originally Posted by Megashed Teaboy

The Woodhouse brothers have 2 Lola T90/50's one fitted with a DFR one fitted with Le Mans Jaguar XJR9 engine.

These guys are in Kidderminster or something right?

Any contact details for any of the above would be welcome, particularly the cars you mention still with 3000 spec engine installations or similar Cossie/Judd V8 power.

Thundersports · 6 Dec 2007, 10:08 (Ref:2082679)

There were 2 or 3 F3000 cars in Boss this year only Kilty from the Uk, drivers have been using ex world series Dallara Nissans as they are cheaper to run,the series is going ok and should boast much stronger grids next year ( averaged about 12 cars this year.)

rescue dude · 6 Dec 2007, 19:09 (Ref:2083039)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

These guys are in Kidderminster or something right?

Any contact details for any of the above would be welcome, particularly the cars you mention still with 3000 spec engine installations or similar Cossie/Judd V8 power.

PM sent.

**chunterer** · 6 Dec 2007, 20:04 (Ref:2083095)

Yep, got it, thanks man.

Have you got any contact details for the Coventry complete car as well by any chance?

driftwood · 6 Dec 2007, 23:10 (Ref:2083238)

woodhouse NEVER sells cars
if u want f3000 car yr talking with the wrong people here
ive had more cars than even mentioned here

Sheila M · 6 Dec 2007, 23:58 (Ref:2083258)

A couple or several years back someone was sprinting Richard Dean's old 1980S F3000 car at Curborough.

Sadly I can't remember who owned the car but I do remember it was in the Panasonic livery that Richard ran in the last 1980s/early 1990s.

Steve Wilkinson · 7 Dec 2007, 11:53 (Ref:2083542)

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Originally Posted by Sheila M

A couple or several years back someone was sprinting Richard Dean's old 1980S F3000 car at Curborough.

Sadly I can't remember who owned the car but I do remember it was in the Panasonic livery that Richard ran in the last 1980s/early 1990s.

That was the Woodhouse clan.

**chunterer** · 7 Dec 2007, 12:18 (Ref:2083563)

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Originally Posted by driftwood

woodhouse NEVER sells cars
if u want f3000 car yr talking with the wrong people here
ive had more cars than even mentioned here

No not looking to buy one, lovely as it would be! Any suggestions on where I might find one welcome though.

All good info for this thread folks, keep it coming. Once again I only want to know for research, particularly cars as close to original spec as possible, not necessarily still competing but ideally in the Midlands!

driftwood · 7 Dec 2007, 12:55 (Ref:2083595)

cars used so far in sprints
reynards
88d judd bv and EV martin dowling
89d cossy dfr tony holdich chassis in ireland?
89d judd cv Pete Griffeths now usa
93d Mark harrison mugen now in france
93d Belton AC then boss now usa
93d AC terry clifford never used sold to Kilty
93D judd CV john minds gone blank ?? not yet running
94D John Garnet DFR now usa
94d cossy HB Chris Hill now in eec

Lola 9050 Chris Hill DFR
Lola 9150 The eyles x3 dfr judd cv motors
Lola 9150 dfr Kilty chassis in ireland
Carl amos took Hill car when he bought 94d
Now Steve you can fill in the missing cars!!!!!!!!!

**chunterer** · 7 Dec 2007, 13:19 (Ref:2083607)

Nice info, however I see most of them are now abroad!!

How many and in who's hands are potentially left over here currently?!

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