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Old 21 Oct 2007, 17:38 (Ref:2046447)   #1
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Hamilton beats Alonso in the world championship

That makes this feel slightly better.
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 17:39 (Ref:2046450)   #2
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ralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
On 2nd place count back too.
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 17:40 (Ref:2046453)   #3
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 17:42 (Ref:2046463)   #4
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I think it's fitting that both Alonso and Hamilton ends the championship tied on points.. there is almost nothing between this two.. and probably, Hamilton gets ahead for being a better boy. But good job
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 17:48 (Ref:2046474)   #5
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Why did mclaren do a 3 stopper for hamilton?

Hamilton did a good job all season, scrappy start to this race, non avoidable issue with transmission (I guess), but 3 stops? How was that going to work?

McLaren need a Ross Brawn.
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 17:54 (Ref:2046488)   #6
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What a bitter victory for hamilton on this one...
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 17:59 (Ref:2046497)   #7
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Yes, it is bitter, but it may help alleviate some of the Spanish media's attempts to claim that Alonso is a better driver than Hamilton.

I beg to differ with such a viewpoint, and I think Hamilton'll only get better, so at least Hamilton is "officially" better, in his first season.

It does actually mean something if you, like me, cannot fathom Alonso's attitude.

Alonso should never have been number 1 at McLaren and Hamilton's proved it this year.

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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:01 (Ref:2046502)   #8
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Why did mclaren do a 3 stopper for hamilton?

Hamilton did a good job all season, scrappy start to this race, non avoidable issue with transmission (I guess), but 3 stops? How was that going to work?

McLaren need a Ross Brawn.
With the way the tyres were degrading, and according to hamilton's style of driving, it would have been very difficult for him not to have tyre probs if he did only 2 stops.
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:01 (Ref:2046504)   #9
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Anyone champion then Alonso!
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:02 (Ref:2046510)   #10
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3 stopper, where did that come from ? he had a chance of winning it. hydraulic problem, press a switch in garage! totally fixed result for me. especially after what bernie said in interview before race.

well done to lewis for a fantastic season.

Roll on next year.....
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:03 (Ref:2046514)   #11
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Not much to choose between Hamilton and Alonso, for sure.

A very sad McLaren meltdown cost them the championship. This is a team in disarray, and they had better get it together for next year.
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:06 (Ref:2046522)   #12
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With the way the tyres were degrading, and according to hamilton's style of driving, it would have been very difficult for him not to have tyre probs if he did only 2 stops.
A very good point, something which I alluded to some days ago. The heat, coupled with the gripper than expected new surface, Lewis' oversteery driving style, and odd choice to bring soft tyres really hampered Lewis and others too, like Kubica.
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:09 (Ref:2046529)   #13
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Thanks to the FIA.
Remember the unjust grid position penalty this year?
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:11 (Ref:2046533)   #14
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And I suppose that'll make all the Hamilton sack-riders happy as well.

In the words of Crabbers:

'Your boy just took one hell of a beating.'

FORZA KIMI!!!!
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:11 (Ref:2046535)   #15
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It really doesn't matter, I'm glad Alonso didn't win it and that Ron and his "prefab" wonderkid can look only at Kimi as the 2007 WDC. Kimi is a worthy champion and as for second,........were mostly talking about who's the first of the losers.

Hail to the Kimster !!
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:21 (Ref:2046557)   #16
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Not a Hamilton fanboy but do feel more than a little bit sorry for him. Pleased that Kimi sneaked up on both of them and did it.

I did respect Alonso until this year based on his performances with Renault. If you did not know better then an outsider could be forgiven for thinking that the driver of car 2 this year was the experienced guy and number 1 was the rookie (accept that in the last couple of races Lewis has shown his inexperience) based on some of the audacious moves.

Also TSF general surly attitude in response to a competitive team mate was both surprising and at times amusing in equal measure.

Alonso is a skilled driver but obviously flawed. What team manager wants to take on that baggage for next year?
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:22 (Ref:2046560)   #17
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From the horse's mouth (RD) 3 stops over 2 recovered 10 seconds at least.
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:22 (Ref:2046561)   #18
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Not a Hamilton fanboy but do feel more than a little bit sorry for him. Pleased that Kimi sneaked up on both of them and did it.

I did respect Alonso until this year based on his performances with Renault. If you did not know better then an outsider could be forgiven for thinking that the driver of car 2 this year was the experienced guy and number 1 was the rookie (accept that in the last couple of races Lewis has shown his inexperience) based on some of the audacious moves.

Also TSF general surly attitude in response to a competitive team mate was both surprising and at times amusing in equal measure.

Alonso is a skilled driver but obviously flawed. What team manager wants to take on that baggage for next year?

Most of them I suspect.
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Most of them I suspect.
For what? To get third in the champoinship (again) at best
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:27 (Ref:2046581)   #20
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I was rooting for lewis but bad things seem to happen in threes football / rugby /f1 in england so hey ho .i think the best man won on the day and at least it wasn,t alonso the winging git.well done kimi its been a long time comming .lewis next year will be a force to recon with as long as he learns a few things from this year.also if he has beaten alonso this year does that make him the no:1 driver next year ?

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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:28 (Ref:2046582)   #21
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Old 21 Oct 2007, 18:34 (Ref:2046603)   #23
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How does the points system works?
They have tied points but I thought it will count towards the most win, but obviously they have the same number of wins, so then shouldn't it goes to who get the win first?

i would thought Alonso should be 2nd.

Anyone can explain?
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oh well, not bad for a rookie!
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It goes to most seconds, then to most thirds etc...
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