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Old 10 Mar 2005, 01:31 (Ref:1248266)   #1
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Teams and Engines 2006

Anyone know if there are any plans for any new teams in 2006:

Confirmed Entries:
Midland F1 (Take over from Jordan)

Unconfirmed Entries:
Dabai F1??? (They confirmed they had plans to enter F1)
Arden F1???
Honda??? (If Honda buy out BAR they will have their own team on the grid)
BMW??? (If BMW buy out Sauber will have their own team on the grid)
Dallara (If they enter F1 with there own team but very unlickly)

There will probably be 10 or 11 teams on the grid next year.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 01:36 (Ref:1248271)   #2
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Here is how it most likely will look next year.

Renault
Minardi Renault
Mclaren-Mercedes
Dabai-Mercedes (thats if the team actualy makes it to the 2006 grid)
Ferrari
Midland-Ferrari or Toyota (most likely Ferrari)
Williams-BMW
Sauber-BMW
Honda
Red Bull-Honda
Toyota

If Ferrari suply Midland in 2006 and everything is like the above then Toyota will be the only engine manufacture suplying one team unless maybe if there is an new team besides Dabai.

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Old 10 Mar 2005, 03:29 (Ref:1248290)   #3
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Are Cosworth pulling out ?
I thought they had a V8 stashed away somewhere ?

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Old 10 Mar 2005, 05:13 (Ref:1248308)   #4
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I can't see Cosworth NOT in F1 next year. I doubt if Minardi will get an engine supply, unless it is thru a deal with Renault, getting Montagny or Kovaleinen.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 06:19 (Ref:1248317)   #5
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I would like to see some more engine manufactures enter f1 next year.

Below is how I would like to see it:

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Renault-Renault
Minardi-Ferrari
Mclaren-Mercedes
Dabai-Porsche
Ferrari-Ferrari
Midland-Cosworth
Williams-BMW
Sauber-BMW
Honda-Honda
Red Bull-Honda
Toyota-Toyota
Alfa Romeo-Alfa Romeo
Lotus-Lotus

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Old 10 Mar 2005, 06:25 (Ref:1248320)   #6
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Anyone know if there are any plans for any new teams in 2006:

Confirmed Entries:
Midland F1 (Take over from Jordan)

Unconfirmed Entries:
Dabai F1??? (They confirmed they had plans to enter F1)
Arden F1???
Honda??? (If Honda buy out BAR they will have their own team on the grid)
BMW??? (If BMW buy out Sauber will have their own team on the grid)
Dallara (If they enter F1 with there own team but very unlickly)

There will probably be 10 or 11 teams on the grid next year.

It's Dubai - and it remains to be seen what stage that project is at

Arden won't be in F1 now with Christian at Red Bull

Honda may increase their stake in BAR, yes

BMW won't be buying Sauber - at least not next year - that's a customer deal

Dallara is building cars for Midland. Anyway, Dallara makes cars, it doesn't run racing teams
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 06:33 (Ref:1248322)   #7
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I didn't say it was going to happen

Also Dallara could still make their own team didn't they have a team some time in the 90's
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 06:47 (Ref:1248325)   #8
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I didn't say you did say it was going to happen


No, Dallara have never had their own team.

That was Scuderia Italia.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 07:33 (Ref:1248338)   #9
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Right KB, and I think such a possibility is absolutely out of reality.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 11:07 (Ref:1248445)   #10
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Will the Midland cars be badged as Dallaras (ie Midland F1 Dallara-Toyotas, or whatever), or will Dallara build them to be branded as Midlands?
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I can't see Cosworth NOT in F1 next year. I doubt if Minardi will get an engine supply, unless it is thru a deal with Renault, getting Montagny or Kovaleinen.
They said they had an engine and it was already over 800bhp IIRC.
http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/050224/13/9a20.html
http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.h...24113001.shtml
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Cosworth’s 2006 engine is dubbed the ‘CA’ is well into its design phase and Hitzinger and his colleagues have conducted a lot of research over the course of the last six months in the area of V8 related mechanical issues and performance improvements
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1248499)   #12
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Well, Cosworth have built pretty good V8s in the past.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 12:53 (Ref:1248505)   #13
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I think the BAR name will live on for at least one year after this one. Red Bull getting Hondas and Midland getting Ferraris seem likely, with Sauber-BMW confirmed and Dubai known to be linked to McLaren-Mercedes. Will only supplying one team be good or bad for Toyota?
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 13:02 (Ref:1248513)   #14
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Dubai are practically guarenteed Mercedes engines seems as McLaren are their consultants on some strange level. The chances of this team appearing next season is slim to none, it doesn't exsist beyond a press release and was probably just a vanity project for some rich tycoon who is now bored of the idea.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 14:25 (Ref:1248568)   #15
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Don't be so sure Midland will use Ferrari power - a lot of noises from Carlin and Kolles say they may wish to stay Toyota runners.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 14:37 (Ref:1248581)   #16
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From what I gather the Ferrari engine is likely to be cheaper, and probably just as good, although aligning yourselves with Ferrari is a risky political move for a small team, so it's a tough choice.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 14:53 (Ref:1248598)   #17
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From what I've read Petronas paid around $20-23 million for Ferrari engines. Toyota currently charge around half that.

That said, if Midland can badge the engines as Ferrari they instantly get some prestige attached to the team which is always useful for bagging sponsors.
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 15:04 (Ref:1248604)   #18
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Jordan will be replaced by Midland next year, Formula1Fanatic
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Old 10 Mar 2005, 15:12 (Ref:1248612)   #20
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Scuderia Ferrari du Vodafone
Johnnie Walker McLaren Mercedes
HP BMW Williams
Telefonica Renault F1
Erm..........BAR Honda
Red Bull Honda Racing Team
Petronas BMW Sauber
Midland Tata (Ferrari Customer Engine)
Panasonic Toyota F1
Erm..........Minardi Renault

And then there were the also-rans.....

Dubai Mercedes
Jordan Toyota

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I didn't say you did say it was going to happen


No, Dallara have never had their own team.

That was Scuderia Italia.
I went to results archive seaction at formula 1.com and found that I was right and Dallara did have their own team from 1988-1992

1988 Teams
McLaren-Honda
Ferrari
Benetton-Ford
Lotus-Honda
Arrows-Megatron
March-Judd
Williams-Judd
Tyrrell-Ford
Rial-Ford
Minardi-Ford
Lola-Ford
Dallara-Ford
AGS-Ford
Coloni-Ford
Ligier-Judd
Osella
Euro Brun-Ford
Zakspeed

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Old 10 Mar 2005, 15:54 (Ref:1248630)   #22
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Team-Engine
Ferrari-Ferrari
BAR-Honda
Renault-Renault
Williams-BMW
McLaren-Mercedes
Sauber-BMW
Red Bull-Honda
Toyota-Toyota
Jordan-Honda
Minardi-Renault
Dubai-Mercedes
Midland-Toyota
Alfa Romeo-Alfa Romeo
Porsche-Porsche
Lola-Cosworth
Dalarra-Lambougini
Jaguar-Cosworth
Lotus-Lotus

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Old 10 Mar 2005, 15:59 (Ref:1248635)   #23
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Yeah. Lets honour Colin Chapman.

Proton, enter F1 and rekindle our love of Lotus F1. Oh yeah, and get JP to sponsor you again. The 80s will be back.
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I went to results archive seaction at formula 1.com and found that I was right and Dallara did have their own team from 1988-1992

1988 Teams
McLaren-Honda
Ferrari
Benetton-Ford
Lotus-Honda
Arrows-Megatron
March-Judd
Williams-Judd
Tyrrell-Ford
Rial-Ford
Minardi-Ford
Lola-Ford
Dallara-Ford
AGS-Ford
Coloni-Ford
Ligier-Judd
Osella
Euro Brun-Ford
Zakspeed

The car was a Dallara - the team was Scuderia Italia.

Read a brief history of them here:http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/con-scude.html
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Indeed.

The "Lola Ford" car of 1988 was the Larrousse team entry.
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