Home Mobile Forum News Cookbook FaceBook Us T-Shirts etc.: Europe/Worldwide. eBay Motorsport Links Advertising Live Chat  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 23 Jul 2017, 11:19 (Ref:3753730)   #136
chunder
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
England
Stevenage
Posts: 7,996
chunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Laguna is a great track to watch on telly but not a great track for a GP saying that A1 Ring is there and we all know why it is.

It is a track that is hard to pass at aswell.

The paddock is not very big, there are no garages, and when MotoGP went there they could not take the Moto2 and 3 teams as there was nowhere to put them as AMA raced there that weekend for some pathetic reason.
chunder is offline  
__________________
This used to be such a vibrant place. Unless you are Oz or like 24h races whats the point now?
Quote
Old 30 Jul 2017, 02:05 (Ref:3755758)   #137
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
Veteran
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 16,140
bjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by chunder View Post
Laguna is a great track to watch on telly but not a great track for a GP saying that A1 Ring is there and we all know why it is.

It is a track that is hard to pass at aswell.

The paddock is not very big, there are no garages, and when MotoGP went there they could not take the Moto2 and 3 teams as there was nowhere to put them as AMA raced there that weekend for some pathetic reason.
The paddock is maybe a little smaller, than the old paddock at Silverstone and bigger than the current F1 paddock. In the late '90s CART would show up with a field of 25+ cars. Either way it was just an example. Road America would be great, too but it will never happen.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 13:05 (Ref:3814865)   #138
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 9,695
Sodemo should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSodemo should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSodemo should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSodemo should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Has there been any news on the future of Silverstone as an F1 venue? At the present moment there is no deal for a race beyond 2018?
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 13:32 (Ref:3814868)   #139
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,741
S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!
I hope they have found something, we canít afford to lose the British GP
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 13:44 (Ref:3814869)   #140
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
Veteran
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 16,140
bjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebjohnsonsmith will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by S griffin View Post
I hope they have found something, we canít afford to lose the British GP
Not now both the French and German GPs are back on the calendar. F1 needs that nucleus of European races and the British GP is very much part of it.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 14:07 (Ref:3814877)   #141
chillibowl
Veteran
 
chillibowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Canada
winnipeg, canada
Posts: 5,754
chillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famechillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famechillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famechillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famechillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famechillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famechillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famechillibowl will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
i seem to recall last year something along the lines of Liberty taking a bit of a hard stance against Silverstone by refusing to renegotiate their contract early.

or maybe it was that Silverstone didnt want to sign an extension and accept the escalating fees the BE era extension option required?

i cant remember exactly but is there talk (again) of Silverstone being dropped?
chillibowl is offline  
__________________
What shall we use to fill the empty spaces, where waves of hunger roar?
Shall we set out across the sea of faces in search of more and more applause?
Shall we buy a new guitar? Shall we drive a more powerful car?
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 14:30 (Ref:3814882)   #142
Mike Harte
Subscriber
Veteran
 
Mike Harte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
United Kingdom
W. Yorkshire
Posts: 2,634
Mike Harte should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMike Harte should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMike Harte should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Silverstone had a get out clause in their contract with FOM that had to be exercised prior to the commencement of the 2017 weekend in July. They, at best, can only just break even, but most years they lose money.

Silverstone duly exercised the clause last year because they obviously cannot afford the escalator clause, but you are right in saying that, publicly at least, Liberty said that they would not re-negotiate the contract before the get-out clause had been executed.

And since then, it would appear, both sides have been silent. I am sure that now the season is under way that the matter will rise to the surface once more, certainly as we near what could possibly be the final ever British GP. However, I expect sensible heads to come together before then.
Mike Harte is offline  
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 14:37 (Ref:3814885)   #143
E.B
Veteran
 
E.B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Australia
About 7kms East of Albert Park Melbourne
Posts: 1,613
E.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridE.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridE.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
At the time I thought that taking the exit clause was just having an option to renegotiate a sweeter deal with Liberty rather than take the Bernie escalator factor lying down. I still see it as that and believe as Mike says that common sense will prevail and Silverstone will remain on the calendar. Liberty are well aware of the importance of a British GP to the future of F1 and the industry that surrounds it.
E.B is offline  
__________________
"The unfortunate thing about the changes coming in next year is that they are all restrictions" : Adrian Newey.
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 21:13 (Ref:3814931)   #144
bella
Race Official
Veteran
 
bella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1998
France
Posts: 15,365
bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!bella is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Harte View Post
And since then, it would appear, both sides have been silent. I am sure that now the season is under way that the matter will rise to the surface once more, certainly as we near what could possibly be the final ever British GP. However, I expect sensible heads to come together before then.
in my little deluded mind, i like to think this is because they're getting together like adults and negotiating a new contract. there's no need to speak to the press to establish starting positions and so on - real businessmen do that in the meeting room.
bella is offline  
__________________
devils advocate in-chief and professional arguer of both sides
Quote
Old 11 Apr 2018, 21:31 (Ref:3814932)   #145
Mike Harte
Subscriber
Veteran
 
Mike Harte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
United Kingdom
W. Yorkshire
Posts: 2,634
Mike Harte should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMike Harte should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMike Harte should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by bella View Post
in my little deluded mind, i like to think this is because they're getting together like adults and negotiating a new contract. there's no need to speak to the press to establish starting positions and so on - real businessmen do that in the meeting room.
I expect so - well, I really hope so.

Hopefully the days of a Mr E navigating his way through negotiations using a loud hailer and the media, and by playing one party against another, have now gone.

Hopefully cool heads will prevail.
Mike Harte is offline  
Quote
Old 12 Apr 2018, 08:14 (Ref:3814968)   #146
Greem
Subscriber
Veteran
 
Greem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
United Kingdom
Loughborough
Posts: 2,770
Greem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGreem will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Saward
Elsewhere, I am hearing from Silverstone that this year's British GP is going to be a three-day meeting in terms of on-track action, rather than the planned four. This is interesting as it suggests to me that Liberty Media is happy to try to help the race promoter to save money, as three days is considerably cheaper than four. This suggests that there is movement of the two parties to find a solution for post 2019… when the current deal finishes. By extension, that suggests that Silverstone remains the only viable alternative, so none of the other projects is very likely - in the short term at least…
From https://www.motorsportweek.com/joesaward/id/00190 a couple of weeks ago.
Greem is online now  
__________________
Unconsciously incompetent since 1970.
Quote
Old 12 Apr 2018, 09:13 (Ref:3814980)   #147
littleman
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location:
northants
Posts: 880
littleman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridlittleman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
It's common knowledge that BE was no fan of the BRDC and vice versa. Perpetual conflict and brinkmanship was standard practice between both parties.

With BE gone, I'm of the view that Silverstone and the British GP are probably more secure now than for decades.
littleman is offline  
Quote
Old 12 Apr 2018, 11:52 (Ref:3815006)   #148
peebee2
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,027
peebee2 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridpeebee2 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Hopefully they can find a deal to have a proper London street race, which would be so much better than the prisoner of war feeling one gets at Silverstone. And maybe some better planning organisation too, such as evidenced by the disastrous new pits.
peebee2 is offline  
Quote
Old 12 Apr 2018, 12:39 (Ref:3815011)   #149
littleman
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location:
northants
Posts: 880
littleman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridlittleman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
That's a bit harsh. The new pits were only built to keep BE happy!

That despicable little man bled Silverstone dry, to such an extent that they couldn't afford to build a tunnel or a bridge.

BE couldn't care less as he was delighted the dirty, smelly public couldn't access his ultra exclusive paddock.

Scum like us should only be allowed to watch F1 on TV and pay handsomely for the privilege. Silverstone Circuit cares about the paying public, BE just saw them as mugs to exploit anyway he could.
littleman is offline  
Quote
Old 12 Apr 2018, 13:05 (Ref:3815017)   #150
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,741
S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!
Exactly, Bernie didn't care that it constantly got big crowds, unlike the new circuits he was so keen on, nor the fact it has so much history and still tests the drivers. That said the new section has increased overtaking opportunities, while keeping the flow of the circuit
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Reply

Bookmarks




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Phillip Island The Only Future Victorian VASC Venue?? (merged x3) peckstar Australasian Touring Cars. 50 24 May 2016 10:32
Porsche Driving Centre - Silverstone as a Sprint venue? andy97 Hillclimb and Sprint 2 15 Jan 2010 17:17
Chinese Grand Prix future venue? Jimmy Magnusson Formula One 13 25 Aug 2008 13:08
World-Class UK Venue MichaelC Formula One 5 6 Oct 2000 14:48


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:05.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2018 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.