Technology allowed ?

[marcus]

Ok ..so I started a thread about ways of reducing costs which had some pretty good feedback ..so why not start one that will go the complete opposite way.

lets blow the budget totally and get all the whiz bang technology available to F1 teams and NASA for that matter and really get the V8 moving along.


Ok enough ******...what should or would you like to see in V8's technology wise ????

[twig]

in my eyes i feel that the SATCC V8 Supercar series is as good as you can get it. We all know that the V8 supercars, are not very technologically advanced, they are very heavy and have massive 600hp engines in the front. The computer systems are only really used by the top running teams, and definitely HRT (my fave team) of which try to get their hands on any technology they can. And you also see most of the lower classed teams using second hand cars from a top running team from previous years. The thing is, that we like it this way. Don't look on it as a reflection of Oz's people, please don't do that, but we have established this series to not be technologically advanced, but we have made it the best touring car catagory in the world, there is not doubt, 38 countries viewed the coverage of Bathurst, and got the highest sports ratings for one year, thats even more that the sydney olympics!! over 17 days!!! HAHAHAHAHA!! anyway...if we were to make any large change to this catagory, we would see changes too large and they would destroy the catagory, just look at the BTCC, where did the V70's and A4 and normal sedans go?! now they have been replaced by **** hatches and Astras!! (not taking anything away from Vauxhall or those teams) but really!!! anyway! this catagory promotes good drivers, and not good technology.
Till then!
CYA!!

[Alan Jones]

This probably doesn't apply here but what the hell, for me apart from Bathurst the V8 series is a little like follow the leader at times and as I'm currently viewing the highlights of the 67 - 74 years, skinny tyres IMO would make for a much more interesting race.The attitude of some of these cars and the long slides thru the corners makes for some great television

Sorry marcus, this wasn't really what you had in mind was it!!!!!

[Buckshot]

Sequential Gearboxes first up, not just stick shift either but behind the wheel paddles..wherever the driver wants'em.

Then let the teams go mad with aero kits - wind tunnel testing is heaps expensive right ?

Also, a boost button - each car has a limited amount of nitro boost to be used during the race ?

Oh, and lst but not least some sort of warp core, powered by a dilitium crystal matrix fed out to nacelles on each side of the vehicle.

Gotta go now, time for my medication !

[mtpanorama]

Energy Polerisers

[Crash Test]

LOL @ Bucky

Aluminium heads
Traction Control
Launch Control
Kerb Hopping Control
Automatic Gearboxes
No rev limit
Every panel must be acid dipped no less tha 10 times (ooops )
Some form of pitlane device that deters mechanics from standing in the road (ie bull bar, cow catcher...)
Lazer guided missiles
10 stacker CD changer

Ok, Bucky, I'll join you

[elephino]

Don't forget...

Climate control
Cruise control (for behind the safety car)
Berylium pistons
Fluffy dice
Klingons off the starboard bow

[Airhead]

Originally posted by elephino
Don't forget...

Klingons off the starboard bow

Great stuff... So instead of traction control we could have tractor beams.

[racer69]

If you let the technology run too wild they would just become GT Cars, but anyway.............

-Auto Gearboxes
-Traction & Launch control
-Computer controlled suspension
-no limit on testing or tyre choice or amount of tyres
-no rev-limit

and: More manufacturers

[RALFANATOR]

I wish

scrap all current rules . then Grab the JTCC handbook follow it to the letter bring in some of there cars & watch Holden and Ford fall by the way side problem fixed I WISH

bar that happening

semi auto boxs
TCS
LCS
unlimtied areo
More Makes
Quad cam engines (a must)
weighting system ( for winners)
F1 point system (to the letter)
more rounds (min 22 rounds)
driver positioning unlimited
12 hr race for bathurst (no extra points)
konica to race in main season of period (summer seires)

Bring on the GT cars

[marcus]

LMAO...hahaha


you guys are crazy ...really crazy

you have mentioned everything except for Fluffy dice ..or were they exclusive to HQ's ????

[Ray Bell]

There are only two areas in which these cars aren't totally technologically advanced...

They have rev limiters; and

They have pushrod engines in the front.

Actually, Crash, they already have alloy heads. These engines are about 150hp better than the 5000cc engines used in the peak of the F5000 era!

And they all use their computers, just some get more out of them than others...

[elephino]

marcus, you'll find I mentioned the fluffy dice. Mind you, they'll have to be made of some high-tech, light weight fluff.

Ray, what about the live rear axle? Non-sequential (and the electronics that go with it) gearboxes?

I also don't see what a rev limiter has to do for or against technology. It just means they won't try to rev the poor push-rod engines to 20,000rpm, it doesn't stop them using whatever materials that are capable of it (ok, it does elsewhere in the rules but it is not specific to the rev limiter).

[marcus]

so you did Elephino

must have been too busy laughing at the klingons on the starboard bow line...that was classic

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by elephino
Ray, what about the live rear axle? Non-sequential (and the electronics that go with it) gearboxes?

I also don't see what a rev limiter has to do for or against technology....

The rev limiter does precisely that, discourages exotica that allows higher revs.

And live rear axles... what a joke! Live rear axles with lumps of alloy bolted on to give variable camber and CV joins built into the driveshafts! Where else in the world is this technology being used?

Are there electronics in the sequential gearchanges? I don't think it's necessary for them to function...

[elephino]

You never said it was about discouraging technology.

"There are only two areas in which these cars aren't totally technologically advanced..."

Now while I agree that a rev limiter discourages the technology but as I said, it in itself, doesn't stop the use of the materials.

So who is using all of this technology that could be improved in a number of ways. One of which would be to go fully independent and introduce exotic materials for the manufacture of the axle or the diff or any number of things that are extremely limited so that these new technologies aren't used.

While it isn't necessary for the electronics to be there with the sequential boxes, the electronics are used to blip the engine on downchanges, use the clutch in some gearboxes (e.g. F1) and also to make the gear change itself quicker and better. Just look at the eletronic gearbox that Toyota had in their Corolla WRCar and that is not state of the art anymore.