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They're also under completely different ownership now.
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a controversial opinion no doubt, but i am more likely to buy a Jag or Rover now that it is owned by TATA.
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Also the best they’ve achieved in F1 was seventh in the championship. They’ve managed the dizzy heights of sixth in FE.
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Modern FE and the Formula 1 of 15 years ago are chalk and cheese.
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Statement released by PJSC Uralkin, one of the bidders to attempt rescue of Force India from administration.
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Send him Williams’ way.. what’s ANOTHER pay driver...
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Mazepin is still absent one superlicence, so he won’t be in a race seat next year.
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So this looks like it is heading to the courts then??
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folding for sure.
i imagine as an employee of Force India or Williams i certainly wouldn't see a difference...you cant feed your family on credibility but you can on feed them on the credit provided by a rich benfactor. its not like i thought FI lacked credibility as a race team because Mallya and Roy defrauded the Indian people and banking systems for hundreds of millions. nor did it ever really bother me that teams like Williams existed for decades on the sufferance of tobacco monies. no doubt a sad admission to make, but when it comes to sports (f1 in particular), i try not to think to much about where the money comes from. |
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Looks like they may NOT be allowed to race with the legal quibbling over what part of Force India was sold if Racefans.net had gotten good info, and they usually seen to be connected. It seems like they sold the assets only and as such the team may be viewed as new and have to apply for championship entry and would forfeit all rights to moneys earned previously. Could get interesting if they ended up with an F1 team that has no place in F1 after this is all done.
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It’s certainly looking more complicated than it was, and the team seem to be reliant on the goodwill of all the other teams, which could prove to be awkward. For the sake of the sport as a whole, let’s hope this can all be resolved and a viable two-car team is on the grid in Melbourne next March.
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Agreed, a mistake by Williams and simply makes them look desperate and mean spirited. As you say the heritage payment is quite likely to be dropped by Liberty in the 2021 payment structure, so I would be getting some brownie points with Liberty now... Another point to add is that if teams are going to object to name changes and new owners in relation to FOM payments, then surely it makes their own teams less valuable? |
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Obviously folding, but I was making the point that once you lose credbility all the things that go with it - ability to attract top drivers, sponsors and people and this is a spiral.
Clearly Williams are in no way in trouble, but only a couple of bad years could seriously impact on them, they have a very 'heavy' business structure to maintain on what is back of the grid money and bear in mind that very low cost F1 teams did not survive, even with pay drivers and some FOM money. |
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Back on topic, more bad news. Bob Fernley has been fired. By Lawrence Stroll, apparently.
That is not a very smart move by Stroll. edit: Link to the story below. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...162679/?nrt=54 Last edited by F1Guy; 23 Aug 2018 at 09:52. Reason: Added a link |
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And more bad news. 'The team' is likely to lose all WCC points from the first 12 rounds. Apparently, it's part of a deal offered by Liberty Media, FOM and the other teams to keep 'the team' on the grid this weekend.
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