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Old 12 Feb 2004, 19:41 (Ref:872299)   #1
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Corse Clienti Ferrari LMP1

The Ferrari/Maserati customer department has said they will build whatever there customers want, hence the 360GTC and 575GTC.

The Maserati Trofeo GT was also built after customer interest.

Now with the LMES, hopefully, sparking a revival in European privateer/customer LMP teams, whats the chance that Corse Clienti will build a LMP1 car for customers.

Surely its the next logical step now the LMES has arrived.

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Old 12 Feb 2004, 19:44 (Ref:872301)   #2
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umm

I think one only has to look at the money spent on F1 to realize where the priorities are.

I don't see this happening as long as F1 is job 1.
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 19:56 (Ref:872313)   #3
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I think one only has to look at the money spent on F1 to realize where the priorities are.

I don't see this happening as long as F1 is job 1.
This department is independent of the F1 team.

It is specifically for customer race programs.
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 20:01 (Ref:872323)   #4
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So, let's order one!
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 20:34 (Ref:872356)   #5
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So, let's order one!
Coupe or open?
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 20:35 (Ref:872357)   #6
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 20:37 (Ref:872360)   #7
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OPEN.
Prefer coupe myself
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 21:10 (Ref:872400)   #8
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I'd say the next logical step would be to concentrate on GTS, and that sadly, we can't expect an LMP...
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 22:30 (Ref:872504)   #9
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"This department is independent of the F1 team.

It is specifically for customer race programs."

All development for new programs comes from Ferrari corporate. Although the departments are different in terms of specific responsibilities, the money still comes from the same place.
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Old 12 Feb 2004, 22:47 (Ref:872521)   #10
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"This department is independent of the F1 team.

It is specifically for customer race programs."

All development for new programs comes from Ferrari corporate. Although the departments are different in terms of specific responsibilities, the money still comes from the same place.
Yeh, agreed, but this department is a money making venture for them.

If there is demand, they will make it to satisfy customer needs, and make a profit.

They must have made a fortune from the 575GTC.
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 01:11 (Ref:872639)   #11
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if the old 333SP is any indication of chassis longevity and car performace than a new Ferrari LMP will only be fantastic.
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 07:41 (Ref:872782)   #12
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Why not build your own Get an old 333 and drop in a 550/575 motor
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 17:15 (Ref:873361)   #13
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...and put a roof on it!

Q: Were there ever such studys how the 333sp would look with a top?
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 17:38 (Ref:873385)   #14
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Something like this I suppose

Don't worry, that isn't real, just edited a roof on to it using paint!
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 17:40 (Ref:873388)   #15
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looks like an '87 ecosse (a bit)
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 17:50 (Ref:873399)   #16
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looks like an DP.
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 18:42 (Ref:873461)   #17
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it does look like a DP - the body work over hte engine would have to be a bit more snug, and the windscreen line taken in a bit- and make it a long tail,...
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 20:01 (Ref:873515)   #18
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 21:06 (Ref:873584)   #19
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I've always thought of the 333sp as the archetypal open prototype of recent years - terrible shame to talk of adding a roof...
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 22:23 (Ref:873632)   #20
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Nice tweak with the paint, given what you had to work with...

But if Ferrari or this "customer" company would build an Italina beast like this...

I'd shave my DP's Butt (or my Debora's Butt) and drive my laps in reverse...

(You get the idea...)
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Old 14 Feb 2004, 00:20 (Ref:873725)   #21
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Please don't do any more DP type take offs on open prototypes. Please!
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Old 14 Feb 2004, 17:09 (Ref:874211)   #22
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It was only an example for a bit of fun! I'm sure there would be more advanced changes then what I did on it. They would most likely re-design it like gttouring said.

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Old 14 Feb 2004, 20:34 (Ref:874298)   #23
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So that means if the Judd engined 333 was called a Fudd , the DP roofed version must be called a Dudd ! Stands to reason I suppose .

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Old 14 Feb 2004, 22:44 (Ref:874368)   #24
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mind the photo work- i was at my friends house and all i have was a bitmap to play with- they has a better windscreen line and the air box is still too "fat" but with a little longer wheel base or making it long tail I am sure it can be fixed...
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Old 14 Feb 2004, 23:06 (Ref:874387)   #25
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Now that is radical!! I'm just working on something else, I will post it in a minute...
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