LM24 2013 24 Hours of Le Mans - Entry List Speculation! - Page 11

**Aysedasi** · 25 Jan 2013, 10:35 (Ref:3194131)

As I'm away for a few days, when the list is announced on 1st February, can we end the 'speculation' thread and start a new one for the real deal?

Koenigsegg · 25 Jan 2013, 12:01 (Ref:3194154)

30 requests for GTE. So is it safe to say that 25 of those will be accepted and the other 5 will be reserves? 30 spots left for LMP. Probably 10 or 11 for LMP1. So that means 20 or 19 for LMP2. All reserves will probaly be LMP2, unless the Hope Flybrid will be a reserve.

rdjones · 25 Jan 2013, 12:31 (Ref:3194165)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

71 entry requests for 55 spots:

http://www.lemans.org/en/races/24h/u...medium=twitter

71 entries, that is way down on what we have had in the last few years. I guess it i a sign of the times.

Koenigsegg · 25 Jan 2013, 12:56 (Ref:3194173)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdjones

71 entries, that is way down on what we have had in the last few years. I guess it i a sign of the times.

There were 71 entries in 2011 and less in 2012. I've read that somewhere, forgot where I read it.

TheMightyM · 25 Jan 2013, 14:46 (Ref:3194217)

Planet Le Mans perhaps?

http://www.planetlemans.com/2013/01/...for-56-places/

40 LMP1/LMP2 among the entries along with 30 GTE (plus the 56 pit of course).

isynge · 25 Jan 2013, 16:30 (Ref:3194247)

Autosport (I know, never the most reliable) put the entry figures at 41 LMP1/2 cars - which I find astonishing.

Does this much machinery even exist?

Victor_RO · 25 Jan 2013, 16:43 (Ref:3194252)

Quote:

Originally Posted by isynge

Autosport (I know, never the most reliable) put the entry figures at 41 LMP1/2 cars - which I find astonishing.

Does this much machinery even exist?

I suspect a few teams have filed two entries despite having a single car available, but if you scour the workshops of every race team in the world, I suspect you would end up with about 35-40 "legal" LMP cars in total.

Simmi · 25 Jan 2013, 17:28 (Ref:3194264)

With that number then we're likely looking at 30 P2's so that's where most of the cuts will be.

I'm hoping there will be a few nice surprises. I might miss the announcement too as I'm in Mallorca at the time. No matter what gets picked it's not going to affect my enjoyment of the race. Can't wait!

CTD · 25 Jan 2013, 18:36 (Ref:3194294)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

As I'm away for a few days, when the list is announced on 1st February, can we end the 'speculation' thread and start a new one for the real deal?

Please do Ayse!

Victor_RO · 25 Jan 2013, 18:39 (Ref:3194295)

And, as we were saying... no Conquest at Le Mans. http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-15485.html

CTD · 25 Jan 2013, 18:39 (Ref:3194296)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

With that number then we're likely looking at 30 P2's so that's where most of the cuts will be.

I'm hoping there will be a few nice surprises. I might miss the announcement too as I'm in Mallorca at the time. No matter what gets picked it's not going to affect my enjoyment of the race. Can't wait!

I agree, the race will be spectacular no matter what

.
And have a nice trip Simmi, when it comes to it!

**Aysedasi** · 25 Jan 2013, 18:46 (Ref:3194303)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

There were 71 entries in 2011 and less in 2012. I've read that somewhere, forgot where I read it.

Actually on the ACO web site.

Simmi · 25 Jan 2013, 19:04 (Ref:3194308)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTD

I agree, the race will be spectacular no matter what

.
And have a nice trip Simmi, when it comes to it!

Thanks Mathias. See you there!

Five months to go.

Koenigsegg · 25 Jan 2013, 19:37 (Ref:3194315)

Quote:

Originally Posted by isynge

Autosport (I know, never the most reliable) put the entry figures at 41 LMP1/2 cars - which I find astonishing.

Does this much machinery even exist?

1 of the 41 is the GreenGT.

I guess 11 of the 41 are LMP1. 3x Audi, 2x Toyota, 2x Rebellion, 1x Strakke, 1x JRM, 1x Oak Pescarolo and 1x Hope Flybrid. Perhaps Dyson will surprise us again, but I doubt it.

Trying to come up with LMP2 car numbers here:
2x HPD by Level 5
3x Lola-HPD (2x Coupe, 1x Open) by Level 5
2x Lotus T128 by Kolles
2x Lola-Lotus-Judd by Kolles
2x Lola-Nissan by Gulf Racing Middle East
3x Zytek-Nissan by Greaves
2x Oreca-Nissan by Signatech
1x HPD by 8Star
1x HPD by Starworks
1x Oreca-Nissan by TDS
1x Oreca-Nissan by Sebastian Loeb Racing
2x Morgan-Nissan by Oak Racing
1x Zytek-Nissan by Jota
1x Morgan-??? by Morand Sport
1x Oreca-Nissan by Pecom
1x Lola-Judd by Status/HVM
1x Oreca-Nissan by Murphy
1x Morgan-??? by KCMG
1x Bailey-??? by ???
1x Lola-??? (open) by DKR (I'm guessing this is the ex Pecom Lola)
1x Oreca-Judd by Race Performance
1x HPD by OREX Competition
1x Oreca-Nissan by Boutsen Ginion Racing
1x Oreca-Nissan by ADR-Delta
1x Radical-Roush by Project Libra
1x Norma-Judd by ??? (does anyone know if Extreme Limite actually sold it)

And some possible chassis:
1x ???-??? by AF Racing International
2x ???-??? by Atlantic Racing Team

So 36 LMP2 exist that we know of. 39 if we include the last 2 teams, they said they'll do ELMS and AsLMS respectively.

I'm sure I forgot a few and don't forget that there are some spare chassis laying around also. Most of them are probably Lola's.

Beetle · 25 Jan 2013, 22:25 (Ref:3194371)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

1 of the 41 is the GreenGT.

I guess 11 of the 41 are LMP1. 3x Audi, 2x Toyota, 2x Rebellion, 1x Strakke, 1x JRM, 1x Oak Pescarolo and 1x Hope Flybrid. Perhaps Dyson will surprise us again, but I doubt it.

Trying to come up with LMP2 car numbers here:
2x HPD by Level 5
3x Lola-HPD (2x Coupe, 1x Open) by Level 5
2x Lotus T128 by Kolles
2x Lola-Lotus-Judd by Kolles
2x Lola-Nissan by Gulf Racing Middle East
3x Zytek-Nissan by Greaves
2x Oreca-Nissan by Signatech
1x HPD by 8Star
1x HPD by Starworks
1x Oreca-Nissan by TDS
1x Oreca-Nissan by Sebastian Loeb Racing
2x Morgan-Nissan by Oak Racing
1x Zytek-Nissan by Jota
1x Morgan-??? by Morand Sport
1x Oreca-Nissan by Pecom
1x Lola-Judd by Status/HVM
1x Oreca-Nissan by Murphy
1x Morgan-??? by KCMG
1x Bailey-??? by ???
1x Lola-??? (open) by DKR (I'm guessing this is the ex Pecom Lola)
1x Oreca-Judd by Race Performance
1x HPD by OREX Competition
1x Oreca-Nissan by Boutsen Ginion Racing
1x Oreca-Nissan by ADR-Delta
1x Radical-Roush by Project Libra
1x Norma-Judd by ??? (does anyone know if Extreme Limite actually sold it)

And some possible chassis:
1x ???-??? by AF Racing International
2x ???-??? by Atlantic Racing Team

So 36 LMP2 exist that we know of. 39 if we include the last 2 teams, they said they'll do ELMS and AsLMS respectively.

I'm sure I forgot a few and don't forget that there are some spare chassis laying around also. Most of them are probably Lola's.

5 Level 5 cars??? No way.

Beetle · 26 Jan 2013, 03:13 (Ref:3194406)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

1 of the 41 is the GreenGT.

I guess 11 of the 41 are LMP1. 3x Audi, 2x Toyota, 2x Rebellion, 1x Strakke, 1x JRM, 1x Oak Pescarolo and 1x Hope Flybrid. Perhaps Dyson will surprise us again, but I doubt it.

Trying to come up with LMP2 car numbers here:
2x HPD by Level 5
3x Lola-HPD (2x Coupe, 1x Open) by Level 5
2x Lotus T128 by Kolles
2x Lola-Lotus-Judd by Kolles
2x Lola-Nissan by Gulf Racing Middle East
3x Zytek-Nissan by Greaves
2x Oreca-Nissan by Signatech
1x HPD by 8Star
1x HPD by Starworks
1x Oreca-Nissan by TDS
1x Oreca-Nissan by Sebastian Loeb Racing
2x Morgan-Nissan by Oak Racing
1x Zytek-Nissan by Jota
1x Morgan-??? by Morand Sport
1x Oreca-Nissan by Pecom
1x Lola-Judd by Status/HVM
1x Oreca-Nissan by Murphy
1x Morgan-??? by KCMG
1x Bailey-??? by ???
1x Lola-??? (open) by DKR (I'm guessing this is the ex Pecom Lola)
1x Oreca-Judd by Race Performance
1x HPD by OREX Competition
1x Oreca-Nissan by Boutsen Ginion Racing
1x Oreca-Nissan by ADR-Delta
1x Radical-Roush by Project Libra
1x Norma-Judd by ??? (does anyone know if Extreme Limite actually sold it)

And some possible chassis:
1x ???-??? by AF Racing International
2x ???-??? by Atlantic Racing Team

So 36 LMP2 exist that we know of. 39 if we include the last 2 teams, they said they'll do ELMS and AsLMS respectively.

I'm sure I forgot a few and don't forget that there are some spare chassis laying around also. Most of them are probably Lola's.

I wanted to comment a little bit more constructively, in hindsight, on your work. Good job on this! It was recently announced that Level 5 were thinking Le Mans a difficult prospect this year. You can bet that Kolles will be bringing his two new (and beautiful!) Lotus T128s to Le Mans... or go down trying. No reason for me to believe he entered old models.

I think Gulf Racing Middle East will do one car for the WEC but two for Le Mans. Maybe Rostan, Giroix, Deletraz, Jousse, Badey, and Fatien this time?

Could Greaves possibly enter three? It's always possible... just not, in any way, probable. It would be just as unlikely that, say, TDS or Pecom would enter two cars. Where would all those drivers come from? Formula 1 test drivers? GP2? GP3? Formula Renault? So many young, talented drivers that could easily go very quickly in LMP2... but they have Formula 1 ahead of them, so they'd have to be persuaded with a huge budget from an LMP2 team. That's why it is so unusual for drivers like Oliver Turvey to get inducted, or induct themselves, into sportscar racing if they like Formula 1 just the same.

I can see a couple of Asian Le Mans LMP2 teams entering, as well.

Simmi · 26 Jan 2013, 06:07 (Ref:3194420)

I don't think Greaves would attempt to enter three but if they did the third would certainly get pulled.

Unless they put something together for Fabien Barthez, maybe with a little name change and they could get it through.

Anyone know anything about Fabien's plans? Seemed like he was set to do the race.

Victor_RO · 26 Jan 2013, 09:14 (Ref:3194424)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beetle

5 Level 5 cars??? No way.

Yes way, I don't think they sold their 2011 cars. One of the Lola coupes was leased to Black Swan (before being crashed at Long Beach), and apparently the Dempsey car was also a Level 5 car on-lease.

Mal · 26 Jan 2013, 09:40 (Ref:3194436)

Could the Deltawing be allowed in - especially if it were entered directly by Nissan - there is a rumour that Nissan has bought a couple of closed top versions???

Victor_RO · 26 Jan 2013, 09:44 (Ref:3194438)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal

Could the Deltawing be allowed in - especially if it were entered directly by Nissan - there is a rumour that Nissan has bought a couple of closed top versions???

Not this year, it's not legal under LMP rules and Garage 56 is taken by the GreenGT.

Koenigsegg · 26 Jan 2013, 10:24 (Ref:3194443)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beetle

I wanted to comment a little bit more constructively, in hindsight, on your work. Good job on this! It was recently announced that Level 5 were thinking Le Mans a difficult prospect this year. You can bet that Kolles will be bringing his two new (and beautiful!) Lotus T128s to Le Mans... or go down trying. No reason for me to believe he entered old models.

I think Gulf Racing Middle East will do one car for the WEC but two for Le Mans. Maybe Rostan, Giroix, Deletraz, Jousse, Badey, and Fatien this time?

Could Greaves possibly enter three? It's always possible... just not, in any way, probable. It would be just as unlikely that, say, TDS or Pecom would enter two cars. Where would all those drivers come from? Formula 1 test drivers? GP2? GP3? Formula Renault? So many young, talented drivers that could easily go very quickly in LMP2... but they have Formula 1 ahead of them, so they'd have to be persuaded with a huge budget from an LMP2 team. That's why it is so unusual for drivers like Oliver Turvey to get inducted, or induct themselves, into sportscar racing if they like Formula 1 just the same.

I can see a couple of Asian Le Mans LMP2 teams entering, as well.

Perhaps I should have been more specific. I was just trying to come up with LMP2 car numbers all over the world, not for the 2013 24h of Le Mans. Someone was asking how many LMP2 actually exist, so I tried to come up with something.

About Level 5. No, I don't think Level 5 will bring all 5 cars to Le Mans. Only the 2 HPD's most likely. But they said in a recent interview about ALMS that they still own the 3 Lola's.

Beetle · 26 Jan 2013, 18:14 (Ref:3194548)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

Perhaps I should have been more specific. I was just trying to come up with LMP2 car numbers all over the world, not for the 2013 24h of Le Mans. Someone was asking how many LMP2 actually exist, so I tried to come up with something.

About Level 5. No, I don't think Level 5 will bring all 5 cars to Le Mans. Only the 2 HPD's most likely. But they said in a recent interview about ALMS that they still own the 3 Lola's.

Who would they get to drive that car? All I can think of is Scott Tucker, Luis Diaz, and Christophe Bouchut. Perhaps Jon Fogarty and Tim Pappas with Black Swan. Otherwise... ???

EDIT: Updates

The Badger · 26 Jan 2013, 21:53 (Ref:3194609)

Barbosa , Franchitti , Brabham , Fernandez , Montagny ..... loads of HPD experianced drivers out there .

Simmi · 26 Jan 2013, 22:24 (Ref:3194630)

One of the interesting things for me in the lead-up to the race is where, if anywhere, will Tom Kimber-Smith pop up?

Surely the two-time reigning P2 champ won't miss out on a ride.

Mike E · 28 Jan 2013, 13:52 (Ref:3195303)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

One of the interesting things for me in the lead-up to the race is where, if anywhere, will Tom Kimber-Smith pop up?

Surely the two-time reigning P2 champ won't miss out on a ride.

Apparently re has re-joined Greaves.

http://www.planetlemans.com/2013/01/...rship-in-2013/

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