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Old 18 Jul 2018, 00:17 (Ref:3837210)   #361
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Who's next? Mazda? Surely they can't be happy with Joest pretty much at the same level as Speedsource (results wise).
I think the car (chassis) is a dog and it can't be completely fixed. May be some fundamental issues with the thing. The engine has gotten slightly better but they still have issues left and right.

The ESM team will be running a Ligier Gibson next year imo. Possibly just one entry by the way their talking. The 'Nissan' dpi was never a big program in terms of actual Nissan support anyway. If the Hyundai one comes about, it'll be the same as this year with it taking ESM's place. Sad situation but things happen.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 02:47 (Ref:3837217)   #362
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I think the car (chassis) is a dog and it can't be completely fixed. May be some fundamental issues with the thing. The engine has gotten slightly better but they still have issues left and right.

The ESM team will be running a Ligier Gibson next year imo. Possibly just one entry by the way their talking. The 'Nissan' dpi was never a big program in terms of actual Nissan support anyway. If the Hyundai one comes about, it'll be the same as this year with it taking ESM's place. Sad situation but things happen.
Although IF the Hyundai thing does come about they would be wise to grab the opportunity with ESM and Ligier to build their car with a team that knows what's needed to meet IMSA rules. But otherwise I agree, it's a Sharp, JVO and other in a Ligier/Gibson car. And, if a P2 car is their route, I think Pipo will be allowed to sign elsewhere and could be the hottest commodity in the off season.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 07:44 (Ref:3837236)   #363
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Although IF the Hyundai thing does come about they would be wise to grab the opportunity with ESM and Ligier to build their car with a team that knows what's needed to meet IMSA rules. But otherwise I agree, it's a Sharp, JVO and other in a Ligier/Gibson car. And, if a P2 car is their route, I think Pipo will be allowed to sign elsewhere and could be the hottest commodity in the off season.
Good call on an ESM/Ligier/Hyundai combo. That'd work for all parties. Pipo being a Ligier driver would help that.

Regarding Mazda, maybe they just have to get everything behind the scenes inline and then swap chassis when IMSA decides what it's doing for the next generation. We're due a new set of LMP2 for 2020 (I think it's through till the end of 2020...but who knows with the winter schedule for WEC what they'll do), so maybe they're just doing their best until they can swap? Got to assume Oreca, Ligier and Dallara will be back, and someone will replace the Riley I imagine.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 10:19 (Ref:3837265)   #364
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Although IF the Hyundai thing does come about they would be wise to grab the opportunity with ESM and Ligier to build their car with a team that knows what's needed to meet IMSA rules. But otherwise I agree, it's a Sharp, JVO and other in a Ligier/Gibson car. And, if a P2 car is their route, I think Pipo will be allowed to sign elsewhere and could be the hottest commodity in the off season.
I imagine Pipo is destined for bigger things in 19. I imagine with the super season / Winter WEC seasons covering 2019 he will still run in IMSA somewhere, but id be suprised not to see Caddy, Acura, or Mazda sign him for more money...

regarding Mazda, I think its unfair to say they have been totally useless (not suggesting anyone has actually said they are)... They have shown some fantastic form, and Joest have clearly improved things for this year.

But its been said many times in many ways, you can only polish a steaming heap so much... I imagine Mazda just want to grab some little gains here and there while they wait for the next homologation cycle to drop that Riley.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 13:00 (Ref:3837312)   #365
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I imagine Pipo is destined for bigger things in 19. I imagine with the super season / Winter WEC seasons covering 2019 he will still run in IMSA somewhere, but id be suprised not to see Caddy, Acura, or Mazda sign him for more money...

regarding Mazda, I think its unfair to say they have been totally useless (not suggesting anyone has actually said they are)... They have shown some fantastic form, and Joest have clearly improved things for this year.

But its been said many times in many ways, you can only polish a steaming heap so much... I imagine Mazda just want to grab some little gains here and there while they wait for the next homologation cycle to drop that Riley.
I would think that Derani is first in line to step in if there is a job opening in any of the 4 full time Ford GT cars. Granted turnover with Ford has been minimal since the program started. Ferrari has been underperforming so far. So maybe Derani will be appealing to them.

Perhaps Mazda needs an upgrade in the drivers department. Have any of the Mazda drivers specifically been underperforming from anybody's observation? Perhaps Derani could fit in there.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 13:25 (Ref:3837317)   #366
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Regarding Mazda, maybe they just have to get everything behind the scenes inline and then swap chassis when IMSA decides what it's doing for the next generation. We're due a new set of LMP2 for 2020
Isn't the current DPi formula homologated through 2021 as well?
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 13:43 (Ref:3837324)   #367
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I think it is, although IMSA is a bit more flexible than the ACO when it comes to homologation. If it means improved Mazda performance then I could see them shifting the homologation rules for them a bit.

IMSA could do well keeping the old chassis as there will be lots of Oreca and Ligier kicking around after they're outdated.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 13:48 (Ref:3837326)   #368
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I could definitely see IMSA allowing a Mazda updated toy prior to homologation ending running under draft homologation rules as they have for DPis. Especially with it being Mazda, and the dog of a Riley.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 15:18 (Ref:3837337)   #369
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Different topic, but with Indycar now taking a mid to late Sept spot at Laguna Seca starting in 2019, and having a provision for increased sanctioning fees should the event be too close to the IMSA weekend, I wonder if the Laguna Seca IMSA race moves back to may, after Long Beach. Seem likely?

Or, long shot, does IMSA take the vacated weekend at Sonoma in Sept.

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Old 18 Jul 2018, 15:43 (Ref:3837339)   #370
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Different topic, but with Indycar now taking a mid to late Sept spot at Laguna Seca starting in 2019, and having a provision for increased sanctioning fees should the event be too close to the IMSA weekend, I wonder if the Laguna Seca IMSA race moves back to may, after Long Beach. Seem likely?

Or, long shot, does IMSA take the vacated weekend at Sonoma in Sept.

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I was wondering about the imsa schedule as well. I guess we will find out in a few weeks at Road America when they release the schedule.
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For some reason I can't see IMSA going back to Sears Point. They left after '05 for some reason and haven't come back in the ALMS days, and Grand Am gave it a shot a couple of times and left too.
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Isn't the current DPi formula homologated through 2021 as well?

The formula is, but there is no rule, AFAIK, that a manufacturer can't change chassis partners.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 19:38 (Ref:3837389)   #373
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Yeah, I agree. I think an IMSA event would do well there if laguna was gone, but two events in bay area in 1 yr, prob not gonna happen, tho I can hope!!

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Old 18 Jul 2018, 23:50 (Ref:3837413)   #374
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There is probably a looming fight about the next generation of LMP2 rules anyways, which makes the posturing about LMP1 all the more amusing.
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