WEC Race 6 Hours of Fuji - Page 2

Simmi · 9 Oct 2014, 20:24 (Ref:3462680)

Having the AsLMS on the same bill as the WEC is such a no-brainer. Needs sorting out next year. As others have said - everybody wins from it.

Designing a complete fantasy race weekend with timings is one of the more bizarre posts I've seen on here. Good effort!

Coach Ep · 9 Oct 2014, 20:26 (Ref:3462681)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Those series' have a set schedule already. Super GT wont run with them, they do Fuji twice a year and its now just finishing up Thailand. People should stop acting like the wec doesnt want supporting acts. Just because theyre no raceing at Fuji with the wec doesnt mean it has no importance. Shanghai had support races, did that make it a classic? Always something to complain about I guess

Feel free to like the series all you want, all I'm saying is that just a 6 hour race on Sunday with only a 'handful' of single seaters and lots of VIP drive arounds will not help establishing a bigger event.

If WEC wants to become more than a 'we're the world championship that people will only know of because the Le Mans 24H is our jewel in the crown while the rest of the races are almost invisible' it has to improve substantially and this is one of the issue to deal with.

Deleted · 9 Oct 2014, 20:28 (Ref:3462682)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Having the AsLMS on the same bill as the WEC is such a no-brainer. Needs sorting out next year. As others have said - everybody wins from it.

Unless this 6h event moves to september it's not gonna happen
http://www.24h-lemans.com/en/news/th...746_16895.html

And again it's own race for sub 10 car field...

TF110 · 9 Oct 2014, 20:32 (Ref:3462685)

Its a fantasy to have a race weekend with 3 major series. Super Formula and Super GT hardly share time as it is now! Its probably off the table to have that take place, as drivers partake in all 3- SGT, SF and WEC. Then the Japanese fans dont get another 2 or 3 weekend to attend a race at Fuji. So by combining all these series into one you get this 'one event a year' that looks big, but limits Fuji's other big racing days. Also limits the fans vacation days. Looking at the scheduling, its already a week after F1, which takes away a lot of attendees. So I will "like this series", theres nothing very wrong with the schedule at Fuji. Instead of picking at little things, use common sense from Fuji and the people's POV.

Coach Ep · 9 Oct 2014, 20:32 (Ref:3462686)

I sincerely hope there won't be an AsLMS next year - what a waste of everything...

Edit: weekend of 19-20 September has TUSC scheduled a race at CotA, I'm assuming the WEC will be there the same weekend so no place for Fuji (?).

Deleted · 9 Oct 2014, 20:40 (Ref:3462690)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Its a fantasy to have a race weekend with 3 major series. Super Formula and Super GT hardly share time as it is now! Its probably off the table to have that take place, as drivers partake in all 3- SGT, SF and WEC. Then the Japanese fans dont get another 2 or 3 weekend to attend a race at Fuji. So by combining all these series into one you get this 'one event a year' that looks big, but limits Fuji's other big racing days. Also limits the fans vacation days. Looking at the scheduling, its already a week after F1, which takes away a lot of attendees.

Fantasy having race weekend with 3 major series? In the US they have events where zillions of big name series are packed into one weekend.

Driver clashes are a problem but they have clashes with those said series already. This way you could still do all those races (if you had the endurance...)

Combining all those four to one weekend would rob you three other Fuji dates yes, but only two of those really matter (nobody cares for AsLMS standalone) and Super GT makes it's standalone 500km visit there anyway on other date.

Anyway the placing of the 6h date is bad indeed (closeness to the other world championship series and the typical bad weather at this point of the year) so I'd move it to spring anyway.

Coach Ep · 9 Oct 2014, 21:13 (Ref:3462704)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Its a fantasy to have a race weekend with 3 major series.

WEC + ELMS at Silverstone and WEC + TUSC + Conti Challenge at CotA seems to work.

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Originally Posted by TF110

Super Formula and Super GT hardly share time as it is now! Its probably off the table to have that take place, as drivers partake in all 3- SGT, SF and WEC.

Again, no issues at the above mentioned venues when it came to drivers doing extra hours.

Perhaps, but who's to say they don't like the idea of joining forces with WEC?

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Originally Posted by TF110

Then the Japanese fans dont get another 2 or 3 weekend to attend a race at Fuji. So by combining all these series into one you get this 'one event a year' that looks big, but limits Fuji's other big racing days. Also limits the fans vacation days.

A combined 'super event' once a year won't make a such a big of an impact as you suggest. And the comment about limiting fans vacation days is beyond me?

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Originally Posted by TF110

Looking at the scheduling, its already a week after F1, which takes away a lot of attendees.

So WEC has to do a better job at scheduling then, hello!!!

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Originally Posted by TF110

Instead of picking at little things, use common sense from Fuji and the people's POV.

Like I said, it needs a lot of things to turn a race into an event, it just shows that the WEC needs to work harder, how's that for common sense?

TF110 · 9 Oct 2014, 21:24 (Ref:3462706)

The US is not Japan. Totally different culture. If you dont know their work ethic/routine, maybe read up on it, Coach.

It is a fantasy to combine SGT SF WEC. AsLMS with WEC makes too much sense for AsLMS to do it. Just one of the problems is SF has SGT drivers and WEC drivers. Duval, Lotterer, Nakajima, Rossiter, J P Oliveira, Luizzi, Yamamoto, Caldarelli all drive in either two or all 3 series. So you have drivers doing 6-9 practice sessions, 2 or 3 qualifying sessions and races of 4-10 hours of racing in just a couple or few days. Theyre fit racers, but thats an insane amount of work. Then sharing the paddock space, pit lane, garages etc. The Japanese have dedication so theres plenty who would sit there for 4 days through all of that, but its illogical.

Scheduling the weekends events isnt an issue. Youre confusing that with its scheduled date.

TF110 · 9 Oct 2014, 22:08 (Ref:3462720)

Looks like its nice and clear at Fuji

Deleted · 9 Oct 2014, 22:17 (Ref:3462722)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Theyre fit racers, but thats an insane amount of work.

I'm sure people like this are just masochists then
http://www.motorsport.com/tusc/news/...ing-this-week/

carbsmith · 9 Oct 2014, 22:45 (Ref:3462733)

From the numbers I can come up with if it hadn't rained out last year the Fuji race probably would have had comparable attendance to the Suzuka 1000, which is likely the upper limit of what you can expect for a sports car race in Japan.

Combining it with the JAF series is just throwing away overall attendance unless you get F1 numbers and running with AsLMS is just charity for AsLMS because it adds absolutely zero appeal.

With where FSW is and Japanese travel culture most of the crowd is probably making a ~2h trip to and from the track on race day so much more than a 6h race isn't going to matter anyways.

I'd hardly compare driving a GT, a short spec GT race, and a production car race to having to run the two quickest sports car categories on Earth and a single seater with better corner speeds than a typical current F1 car.

Octane · 10 Oct 2014, 00:45 (Ref:3462761)

It's anyone here going to the race? I'm in town now and the weather is perfect. Some light cloud but no signs of rain.

If anyone else is going to the event, hit me up here or on fb (nathanbell.ah) and we can catch up. I'll be getting the 3-day paddock pass when I make my way over there this morning.

Ginaro Zukovsky · 10 Oct 2014, 01:23 (Ref:3462771)

Someone asks Eduardo a question about the red flag at COTA, tweeted by DHH https://twitter.com/dhhracing/status/520378550965518336

Coach Ep · 10 Oct 2014, 01:50 (Ref:3462780)

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Originally Posted by TF110
Scheduling the

weekends events isnt an issue. Youre confusing that with its scheduled date.

No, I don't. Both aspects are an issue and I bet next year's calender will give the Japanese the same challenge.

TF110 · 10 Oct 2014, 02:53 (Ref:3462789)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

I'm sure people like this are just masochists then
http://www.motorsport.com/tusc/news/...ing-this-week/

Your argument is because this guy can do, so should everyone else?

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

No, I don't. Both aspects are an issue and I bet next year's calender will give the Japanese the same challenge.

Maybe I should use another word. The scheduled race date may be an issue, but the events during the race weekend aren't. They dont need tons of support races or double events.

chernaudi · 10 Oct 2014, 03:31 (Ref:3462802)

FP1 is over. Order is #1 Audi, #2 Audi, #8 Toyota #14 Porsche #7 Toyota, #20 Porsche. Top 5 covered by .45 second.

TF110 · 10 Oct 2014, 04:04 (Ref:3462807)

After last year, the fastest time in fp1 was 1:28.438. This year its 1:28.628, only .190 slower. Lets see if they can go to the 27's in fp2.

Nicholosophy · 10 Oct 2014, 05:12 (Ref:3462820)

Aren't there like 8 entries in ALMS. EXCITING SUPPORT RACING THERE.

gustavobamba · 10 Oct 2014, 06:41 (Ref:3462841)

In FP1 Porsche is about 25 km/h slower than fastest Toyota…. strange!!!!!!!

The AER engine is very good in terms of top speed :-)

carbon_titanium · 10 Oct 2014, 07:53 (Ref:3462856)

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Originally Posted by gustavobamba

In FP1 Porsche is about 25 km/h slower than fastest Toyota…. strange!!!!!!!

The AER engine is very good in terms of top speed :-)

very strange indeed, and even with that top speed handicap the #14 runs in competitive laptimes. Strange for porsche to use an HD package at fuji.

TF110 · 10 Oct 2014, 07:53 (Ref:3462857)

Toyota has some really good long run pace. Audi right there too. Itll be a good fight if this holds to race day.

Jaguar4 · 10 Oct 2014, 22:09 (Ref:3463130)

Does anyone have a live streaming link for qualifying and the race?

Maelochs · 11 Oct 2014, 00:58 (Ref:3463177)

it seems the back door might be closed? Does anyone have a video link?

blankfile · 11 Oct 2014, 01:09 (Ref:3463178)

backdoor seems open to me, just no video at practice

Maelochs · 11 Oct 2014, 01:18 (Ref:3463179)

Well ... hmmm ... thanks then. No audio either?

I see the new Lotus P1 is the slowest of the P2s .... Can't wait for the combined P1 class next year.

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