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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:08 (Ref:795105)   #1
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autosport and motorsport news report that prodrive have signed a deal to build an aston martin db9 gts car to compete at le mans in 2005.

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:22 (Ref:795120)   #2
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:30 (Ref:795127)   #3
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:49 (Ref:795151)   #4
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Yes indeed. Look forward to 2005.

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 16:13 (Ref:795175)   #5
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Good to see Aston will be racing something again. Does seem to eliminate any chance of seeing a Ford GT is GTS doesn't it.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 16:19 (Ref:795181)   #6
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I thought it was the production supercharged 5.4 that eliminated that chance.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 16:25 (Ref:795192)   #7
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What is the displacement limit on forced induction motors in the GTS category??? 4.0l's?
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 17:08 (Ref:795251)   #8
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Yep. I doubt it would be worthwhile to sleeve out the cylinders.

It appears that they could remove the charger, though. (5.2.2(b) of the GTS regs)

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:06 (Ref:795292)   #9
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so a 4.0L Supercharged Ford GT GTS contender could still be a possibility at least
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Great news, just a shame they cant go in 2004
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None too bad at all thanks!
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:46 (Ref:795334)   #12
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Good to see BOTH AM and Lamborghini entering GTS rather than the less exciting GT class.

To me it seems only a matter of time before GTS cars are upgraded to compete with the LMPs.

The question is whether GTS will be upgraded or a new GT1 class will be introduced without the homologation pitfalls of the previous 'GT1' class as Ratel seems to prefer.

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so a 4.0L Supercharged Ford GT GTS contender could still be a possibility at least
Not knowing thing one about engine blocks, I'd guess it would make more sense to remove the s/c and bore out the engine. I'm assuming the block is somewhat substantial (since it can operate at the higher pressures required by the s/c), and if the Ferrari could get from 5.5 to 6, I'd think the Ford 5.6 could get to 6 at least, maybe even 6.5 if the geometry is right.

It's too bad they went with the 5.6 as the base for the 'charger. If they had've gone with the mod V8 (as used in the Panoz GT and the Multimatic DP among others) they'd only have to sleeve down 0.6L. I fear that 1.6L is a lot of displacement to sleeve out, and you'd end up with a pretty big 4.0L...
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 21:41 (Ref:795507)   #15
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If you are speaking of the four cam Ford, it will not go above 350 in. cubed. The engine is extremely heavy as it is which is why Ford did not give it a large heavier cyl. block.
If they do not allow destroking, the engine is already a long-stroke engine and sleeving down to 4l will make it internal geometry better suited to tractor-pulling than sports car racing.
At 330 in.cu. it is already a long-stroke engine.
Now the old push-rod engine used by Panoz and Saleen, that can be expanded quite a bit, if they use the tall-deck version.
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