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Old 14 Jan 2022, 00:22 (Ref:4093656)   #1306
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Peter Riches:
"we can do all sorts of things such as limit the guys at the front to allow the rear to catch up again while everybody understands the new system"
Please, no. (If that's meaning within a race.)
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 09:38 (Ref:4093694)   #1307
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Ugh, that sounds horrible and is what I was afraid of with this hybrid stuff. It makes overtaking pointless and a non-event if a car can just breeze past another uncontested. I really hope that isnt the case.
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 09:52 (Ref:4093697)   #1308
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I do hope they do not do what is being suggested here. It would make it way too artificial
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 10:34 (Ref:4093708)   #1309
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Sounds to me as though they are expecting the teams without the depth of engineering expertise taking a lot longer than those with to get the hang of how to use the hybrid system.

Seems a bit weird as it seems to be a fairly simple system on the face of it.
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 12:11 (Ref:4093721)   #1310
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BMW Motorsport have just shared this tweet with Turkington and Jelley featuring, in picture 3 does it give a clue as to this years livery for the 3 series?

https://twitter.com/bmwukmotorsport/...781659659?s=21
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 12:23 (Ref:4093724)   #1311
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I do think it is more in the realms of preventing a car being too far removed from the field at the back, as opposed to getting a lesser-developed car to the front.

If anyone remembers the AFM Racing 120d whistling around long after the pack had passed through, you'll understand what they are trying to avoid I think.
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 12:39 (Ref:4093727)   #1312
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Recent tweet from BMW Motorsport shows Turkington and Jelly but pic 3 maybe gives a clue to the 3 series livery this year...

https://twitter.com/bmwukmotorsport/...781659659?s=21
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 12:44 (Ref:4093728)   #1313
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I do think it is more in the realms of preventing a car being too far removed from the field at the back, as opposed to getting a lesser-developed car to the front.

If anyone remembers the AFM Racing 120d whistling around long after the pack had passed through, you'll understand what they are trying to avoid I think.
Except they all fundamentaly now have the same kit. In the past seasons I think there has not been a BOP adjustment of any note. If now some teams - we can all guess who- cannot get a grip it seems unfair to those who have
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 12:56 (Ref:4093729)   #1314
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In the past seasons I think there has not been a BOP adjustment of any note.
I'm not certain of 2021, but there were definitely adjustments made in 2019 and 2020:

June 19 - 'British Touring Car Championship technical bosses have pegged back the WSR BMW 330i M Sport cars during an in-season turbo boost review'

October 20 - 'An adjustment to the turbo boost of rear-wheel-drive cars ahead of Croft brought both the infamous BMW and the Infiniti starts back into play.'
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 13:05 (Ref:4093730)   #1315
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Two changes for 2022.

A) There will be some form of external LED indicating that the hybrid power is being deployed.

B) The organisers will ensure that the hybrid power is used in a way that sees the slowest cars competing at the front.

Peter Riches:
"The challenge to the teams will be quite big, and whether the back of the grid can keep up with the front initially is debatable, but we can do all sorts of things such as limit the guys at the front to allow the rear to catch up again while everybody understands the new system"
Is this not just the new version of success ballast? Or something worse...
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 13:10 (Ref:4093731)   #1316
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I'm not certain of 2021, but there were definitely adjustments made in 2019 and 2020:

June 19 - 'British Touring Car Championship technical bosses have pegged back the WSR BMW 330i M Sport cars during an in-season turbo boost review'

October 20 - 'An adjustment to the turbo boost of rear-wheel-drive cars ahead of Croft brought both the infamous BMW and the Infiniti starts back into play.'
Like I said- of any note - generally I think the cars have been pretty even One Infinity has been fast consistently but only one - probably more organic than mechanical!
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 13:58 (Ref:4093737)   #1317
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Does anyone know what the base engine is for the new M-Sport power unit? I think a Ford unit had been speculated but I haven’t seen any confirmation.
https://www.facebook.com/MSportLtd/p...58710670838612
M-Tech have posted some pictures of the new engines. I don't know if that helps to identify the base engine.
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 14:06 (Ref:4093738)   #1318
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Is this not just the new version of success ballast? Or something worse...
That is what I thought - but it is a strange comment for someone other than Gow to make
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 14:50 (Ref:4093746)   #1319
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M-Tech have posted some pictures of the new engines. I don't know if that helps to identify the base engine.
Thank you! It does seem to resemble the Ford EcoBoost engine, although with lots of upgraded parts of course.
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 15:35 (Ref:4093747)   #1320
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That is what I thought - but it is a strange comment for someone other than Gow to make
Weird that the BTCC Technical Director would answer a technical question about the BTCC?
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