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Old 9 Sep 2002, 18:39 (Ref:376730)   #1
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Goodwood 6/7/8 September 2002

Having chosen to spectate rather than be trackside, I was wondering whether any of you who attended would like to rate marshalling the event compared to other events and circuits.
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Old 9 Sep 2002, 19:16 (Ref:376770)   #2
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Having marshalled the Revival for all except it's first year, I would make the following observations:-

1) Within the limitations placed on the meeting by its very ethos the marshalling conditions are not too bad. Yes there is a lack of permanent huts on post and the need to hide modern vehicles (fire trucks, rescue etc) may seem a bit O.T.T. but in my opinion does not significantly affect safety standards. From personal experience in the event of a serious incident assistance arrives as quickly as anywhere else.

2) The fancy dress element is not to everyone's taste but if you do not want to take part just ask for a post around the back of the circuit (3 to 11) and wear your orange with pride! This year was my first on a "white" post and I actually quite enjoyed it.

3) The campsite toilets were, are and probably always will be disgusting!

4) The working days are very long, with few breaks. This is perhaps the worst aspect of the event.

5) The racing is unbelievably good - hard fair racing between cars that were built to race, with a range of ex- and current professional drivers and brilliant amateurs. I had expected the evening race this year to be rather a boring affair, but it was one of the best racing experiences of my life.

All in all it remains one of my very few "Must do" meetings. This year I took my 12 year old son who wasn't very keen, on the way home he asked if he could come next year!

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Old 9 Sep 2002, 20:05 (Ref:376810)   #3
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Ok I have a question - and I'm not being smart, I'm genuinely interested/curious.

If they're so hot to trot on getting everything right, do they allow female marshals? After all, I'm assuming there wouldn't have been any such creatures in the time period they're aiming for?
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Old 9 Sep 2002, 20:23 (Ref:376834)   #4
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Yes they do use female marshals, as far as I can work it out it's the "look" they are trying to achieve - monochrome advertising hoardings etc. to achieve a period feel. If it comes to it white overalls are just as "wrong" as any other colour, when I started marshalling in 1974 nobody wore overalls on the bank, my standard kit was jeans and combat jacket with a natty cardboard armband!

Marshalling is handled by the BARC and the event appears on their standard volunteer form, try it next year it's a unique atmosphere and some very good racing.
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Old 9 Sep 2002, 20:25 (Ref:376838)   #5
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ooh tempting - if we can and we get accepted sounds like fun!

I have some of the films from BARC racing (at least I think it's BARC) from the late 60s/early 70s - they did a montage on Men & Motors a while back. Either you were IN it, or everyone wore jeans and combat jackets - and REALLY bad haircuts!
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If it was a really bad haircut and very dodgy glasses it was me, I have since changed my identity and killed anyone who knew the old me!

Seriously we all did wear that kind of gear. My first meeting was a Formula 5000 meeting in 1974 and post safety equipment included a grappling iron on a chain (for righting overturned cars) and a single long asbestos glove, the only possible use for which would have been carrying out internal examinations on burning cows! Safety advice was to wear natural fibres and strong boots, so things have progressed a bit in the last 30 odd years, if not very much.
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Old 9 Sep 2002, 21:41 (Ref:376926)   #7
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ROTFLMAO - did you get much in the way of burning cows?

I believe smoking was also compulsary - preferably a pipe?
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Hi All

Getting back to the subject of marshalling at Goodwood (!!!!), yes I rate it as being one of the key events of the year to do. Obviously, in my current state I can't marshal, but did so in 1998 and 1999 at Lavant and Fordwater and loved the atmosphere, the sights, the nostalgia, basically I can't get enough of it.

Jackie was this year flagging at St Mary's, and from her post could see the cars from Madgwick through Fordwater to her post, and she loved every minute of it too.

It is a BARC event (Lord March is BARC president!), so I presume you'd have to volunteer through them if your not a BARC member. Yes, the days can be long (Saturday they finished with an evening/twilight race so most marshals who chose to stay on were on post for 12 hours) but the memories you go away with stay with you for a long time. After all, when was the last time you saw 30 cars all doing 4 wheel drifts, or a Morris Minor being outrageously driven sideways out od every corner, as we witnessed this year?????

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Seriously, if you want to volunteer for either the Revival or the Festival of Speed, both unique events that should be done at least once, write to BARC, Thruxton Cicuit, Nr Andover, Hants and ask for a volunteer form. The Marshal's secretary is Karen. You will then receive a complete set of forms for all BARC meetings, including such exotica as Gurston hillclimbs. You don't have to be a member to marshal, though if you do enough meetings for them you can earn enough meeting stamps to pay for membership.

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Old 10 Sep 2002, 08:53 (Ref:377171)   #10
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For my money the Revival meeting is the best re-creation that one can expect – and the racing has since its inception been out of the ‘top drawer’! Period dress – easier for us observers than for the track chappies! Lady marshals – ah well, perhaps not quite 1950’s but where would we be without them? The crowd who are totally enthusiastic – cheer anything and really want to know what we are doing and support us (my partner – a lady flaggie type – was handed an umbrella by a family on Friday to keep her dry whilst she waved at the cars!!). All credit to Charles March and the team for making the dream a reality.

If you are as old as me then some of the cars you remember first time round (just!) and if not you can imagine some of these beasts hurtling around the circuit without the sophistication we have today of engineering, tyres, track and safety arrangements… It must have been awesome! But did anyone ever drive like Barrie Williams???

Finally, a big thank you to all members of my team at the chicane who cheerfully on three occasions attended to errant drivers who demolished our polystyrene concrete, cleared and swept the track and rebuilt the barriers all in the time it took for the racers to arrive back after another lap.

2003 can’t come too soon….
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No problem MrH, a most enjoyable weekend with yourself and Herr Neubauer.
However... did'nt we rebuild the wall four times?
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Now, back to the topic in hand for young Foxy - is the marshalling as good? Well of course the actual marshalling is!

Communication seems a bit dodgy due to the backgound noise, maybe headsets would help, although of course this would detract from the desired look. Could this somewhat compromised communication be responsible for the somewhat (IMO) tardy appearance of red flags. (or was it just the usual BARC wait a lap and see what happens?)

As has already been said though, you are a bit exposed to the elements and there's no hiding behind armco. If something comes in and bits start flying, the onus is on you to dodge them. This may well be the biggest deficiency of Goodwood and could so easily be it's downfall. If (God forbid) parts of a car are spectator bound, theres nothing to stop it apart from some nice looking wooden rails at waist height. We at least have the room to move, not so for the crowd.

Flag points also tend to be remote from the main post, decreasing the cohesiveness of the team for the weekend and yet again compromising communication for the Observer.

Despite these misgivings and the absolutely disgusting sanitary provision in the campsite, I intend to carry on enjoying some of the finest racing ever seen.
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Well This is my first post here as I only found out about this site while I was at Goodwood.

I think every marshal should do this meeting at least once. I've been to them all and it certainly is the highlight of my marshalling year. Seeing such a rare collection of cars being put through their paces and the atmosphere is something I haven't come across anywhere else. Yes the problems that have been mentioned in other posts will probably always be there (toilets, exposure to the elements, communication etc) but they certianly won't spoil anyone's enjoyment. I always leave with a big grin. Can't say the same about the GP.
It is one place where you feel apprieciated' by spectator and drivers alike. Most drivers will acknowledge you at the end of a race, something even FFord drivers don't do these days.Did anyone there go to the presentation on Sunday night and hear Whizzo personally thank the marshals for being there? Many people standing around me turned and nodded or gave the thumbs up to me. That kind of acknowledgement means a lot.
Unfortunatly I shall not be at next years Revival as my girlfriend is going to make an honest(?) man of me at the end of August and we will be on honeymoon. (Although I tried telling her I had booked the honeymoon at a hotel in Chicester).

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Welcome to the forum 'Snetman'- yes, you are absolutely right about the appreciation of drivers, and yes, Whizzo when he received his driver of the day award did especially thank all marshals.

At both the Festival and Revival meetings virtually all drivers acknowledge the waves of the marshals and single us out for praise at the prize giving ceremonies.

Such genuine appreciation makes all the days spent in the rain, cold etc. worthwhile - long may it continue!
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oh man I have GOT to do this next year

Body - how about earpieces with the mike on the cable for the radios? That would be fairly easily concealed unless someone was standing right next to you, so you'd get the 21st century benefits without spoiling the ambiance?
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