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Old 29 Apr 2022, 08:47 (Ref:4108391)   #106
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They need to encourage others, even temporarily, to enter the series. It's not that hard to do, there's plenty of top quality drivers around
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 09:07 (Ref:4108396)   #107
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I suppose quality is better than quantity Hopefully there are a few wildcards in the mix.
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 10:53 (Ref:4108404)   #108
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I thought that the point of TCR rules was to get a nice big full grid with lots of different models of cars and the opportunity for drivers in other TCR series to take the step up. What has gone wrong?

Weird choice of tracks, dwindling grids, only 4 or 5 different models of car...
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 11:56 (Ref:4108406)   #109
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17 is disappointingly low, but at least there is some quality on the grid. Further to steve_r 's point, TCR Europe has only got 4 represented brands this season.

I find it incredible that WTCR has fewer entries and manufacturers represented than TCR UK. In fact I think TCR UK may have the biggest entry of any TCR series globally right now? TCR Europe has 21, TCR Australia around 20, all other series I think are in the teens in entries.
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 12:01 (Ref:4108407)   #110
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They need to encourage others, even temporarily, to enter the series. It's not that hard to do, there's plenty of top quality drivers around
Exactly. An incentive scheme or something, a 'we'll subsidise 2 or 3 entries from TCR Europe/TCR UK/TCR Asia etc.' for each race meeting, would get the grid size up and give greater exposure to national racers.
Or they should make it mandatory for each manufacturer to enter a guest car at 2 rounds of their choosing, or something along those lines.

I would imagine that should Korea, China, and Macau go ahead there will be at least 6 cars from the respective domestic/continental TCR series joining the grid.
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 12:13 (Ref:4108408)   #111
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I thought that the point of TCR rules was to get a nice big full grid with lots of different models of cars and the opportunity for drivers in other TCR series to take the step up. What has gone wrong?

Weird choice of tracks, dwindling grids, only 4 or 5 different models of car...
It's because the model doesn't work for a worldwide series. The sort of drivers filling out the fields in TCR series across the world can't/don't want to be travelling the world for races. TCR Europe works much better for them. At least 5 TCR Europe entries are ex-WTCC and quite of the newcomers in TCR Europe probably would have been WTCC entries 5-10 years ago.
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 12:26 (Ref:4108409)   #112
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I'd be interested to know what the budgets are like for WTCR. If it's comparable to say, GT World Challenge, then it's not really a bang for your buck season, especially when there's so little promotion on behalf of Eurosport.

@SSmith Out of all of the various remaining TCR series, I think only the UK and Italian national series have more than 20 cars. The Chinese, Russian and Denmark series' are also fairly healthy, at least relative to the typical field-sizes of their respective national championships.
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 16:11 (Ref:4108434)   #113
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I find it incredible that WTCR has fewer entries and manufacturers represented than TCR UK. In fact I think TCR UK may have the biggest entry of any TCR series globally right now? TCR Europe has 21, TCR Australia around 20, all other series I think are in the teens in entries.

TCR Italy has 32.
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Old 29 Apr 2022, 18:40 (Ref:4108442)   #114
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Quality is good, for quantity we could use 3, 4 extra cars.

The move to electric powered cars isn't helping.
I assume the WTCR and eTCR will merge next season.
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Old 30 Apr 2022, 07:52 (Ref:4108467)   #115
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Quality is good, for quantity we could use 3, 4 extra cars.

The move to electric powered cars isn't helping.
I assume the WTCR and eTCR will merge next season.
Fully agree, Eurosport clearly shifts it's focus to ETCR and electric racing. Even next week, ETCR is set to be shown live on Eurosport 1, while WTCR will be only on Eurosport 2.

Hyundai and Cupra downscale their WTCR activities, focusing on ETCR and that is -4 cars. While no new manufacturers seem to be interested in promoting ICE touring car machinery.
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Old 1 May 2022, 16:20 (Ref:4108591)   #116
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While no new manufacturers seem to be interested in promoting ICE touring car machinery.
no new manufacturers in ETCR this year either
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Old 2 May 2022, 15:06 (Ref:4108670)   #117
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I insist that there's too many date clashes.
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Old 8 May 2022, 11:59 (Ref:4109216)   #118
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The opening race of the season was a predictable Pau procession.
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Old 9 May 2022, 06:38 (Ref:4109334)   #119
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Yeah - processional and not exactly high on excitement. Its WORLD touring cars, meaning that they should pick the best tracks in the WORLD. Instead we have this.
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Old 9 May 2022, 12:03 (Ref:4109385)   #120
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The end of Race 1 was alright, I haven't caught up with Race 2 yet. I'm struggling to remember if Pau has ever produced an all-around good race, even in F3/3000...
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