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3 May 2022, 08:21 (Ref:4108736) | #1 | ||
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WAU To Ford???
Whoa, speedcafe reporting WAU to Mustang for Gen3
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A Ford Performance press conference this Friday apparently to announce…. Something..
Might make sense of the interest in preparing the Grove team’s engines.. |
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Where to for Erebus then?
Want Mr Ryan in the press saying they wanted to remain a customer of WAU? |
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that’s big.
they were the 2nd last team that I thought would jump ship to Ford Welcome home Chaz |
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3 May 2022, 12:19 (Ref:4108766) | #7 | ||
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WOW - Understandable
But what a sad day for historical holden peeps |
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4 May 2022, 01:04 (Ref:4108837) | #8 | |
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Fox Sports need to proof read their stories:Currently 16 drivers pilot Mustangs compared to just nine in the Commodore
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4 May 2022, 06:39 (Ref:4108844) | #9 | |
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The same story as Pontiac enthusiasts (or Mercury enthusiasts on the FoMoCo side) I suppose.
A darn shame that WAU weren't able to put a package together for an extra brand. The commercial and technical package of the ATCC must have big problems if it is so difficult to present a compelling case to auto brands. |
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888 is able to support its design, engineering and production facilities off the back of the customer chassis and ongoing parts and engineering support... If the Erebus Benz experiment proved anything.. a lone wolf solution is not the path to success.. |
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Although some appear to be in shock, ever since GMSV shunned WAU in favour of Triple Eight, the writing was on the wall. Much like it was inevitable that Triple Eight would become a Holden team after being ditched by Ford. Of the nine teams that have been around for more than a couple of seasons, only DJR and Tickford have not changed manufacturer in the last 15 years, so it's nothing new. |
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4 May 2022, 13:55 (Ref:4108890) | #12 | |
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That's why it is critical that Gen 3 embraces six cylinder turbos, or possibly four cylinder turbos with a hybrid system.
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SO now its official.
Always was HRT to us old timers. https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/05/06...ord-confirmed/ Still a sad day but understandable. |
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7 May 2022, 10:54 (Ref:4109128) | #17 | ||
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Mr Walkinshaw referenced something in his WAU manifesto about the Holden factory deal ‘…was taken away from us…’ yet gleefully ignores the winless streak at the time and the overall mid pack running…
What does ‘factory support’ mean in the brave new Gen3 world? |
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Each approach has its proponents but only one has a future in this fast changing world. Mercedes are pulling the V8 out of their halo premium car for a reason and it is not because they want to. |
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On topic, although it is sad to see the old HRT now WAU move from GM, they have lacked support for years so I don't blame them. I'll be supporting the team no matter what seeing as the cars have no relevance to me in my opinion and I follow drivers these days, albeit not that close as I find Supercars racing a bit lack luster at times. |
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And that's probably why they'd rather not go down that route, I mean I believe it is possible but the amount of money and time they'd need to invest it probably won't yield the return they're after anyway.
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The alternative approach is to use homologation and performance matching as GT3 does, quite successfully. |
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Let's just leave GT3 out of this discussion...they have their own issues as well, but not worth trying to compare apples with oranges in this discussion.
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All I am saying is that they have painted themselves into a corner with engines, and GT3 might have problems but theirs is a different methodology that is worth looking at in developing answers.
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No, not possible and absolutely impractical. You only have to look at the debacle Nissan/Mercedes turned into and they were V8's but had different engine architecture. After that little lesson what manufacturer would even try and consider using a different architecture motor. I repeat the question above, how long did it take to make the two current motors reasonably close?
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