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Old 1 Apr 2011, 10:14 (Ref:2856734)   #1
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This week-end I am taking part in the 5th Monte-Carlo Rally for Alternative Energy Vehicles.
http://www.acm.mc/vea/vea_main.php?p...011.php&lng=en
I shall be driving a "works" Nissan Leaf which is 100% electric and am in fact doing a part of the Rally called the Urban Electric Rally, which is for full electric cars that cannot compete in the full event due to restricted mileage. We do two regularity stages on Saturday, the first up to Gorbio and the second the Col de la Madone and Col des Banquettes (a former "real" rally special stage).
I shall let you know how I get on! Good practice anyway for the McLaren M1 next week at Barcelona! Actually it does have a kind of Kers system (the Nissan, not the McLaren!), when you lift off the engine acts as an alternator and recharges the battery. So perhaps downhill will compensate for uphill (rather doubt this).
I am sure this will interest the younger members of this forum as one day they will be watching all electric Formula One races (and I will hopefully be dead).
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Old 1 Apr 2011, 10:27 (Ref:2856744)   #2
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Not quite sure how to respond to that one, Marcus!
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Old 1 Apr 2011, 11:09 (Ref:2856757)   #3
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Old 1 Apr 2011, 11:19 (Ref:2856763)   #4
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Did you see the link for the Electric Drag bike I put up just incase you didnt its here. Reminded me of a scene from the movie Tron and in some ways I feel encouraged by it as it means motorsport can continue, we can always add some loud speakers for the engine noise lol!

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Old 1 Apr 2011, 11:43 (Ref:2856778)   #5
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Marcus, is it just lucky coincidence that this event starts on April 1st?

As you say, at some point in the future large numbers of people, some our descendants, may indeed travel by wind-blown Leafs but I suspect it may take a little longer and be more disruptive than some people imagine. I too expect to have departed by then. Hopefully.
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Marcus, is it just lucky coincidence that this event starts on April 1st?

As you say, at some point in the future large numbers of people, some our descendants, may indeed travel by wind-blown Leafs but I suspect it may take a little longer and be more disruptive than some people imagine. I too expect to have departed by then. Hopefully.
I quite forgot it was April 1st! No, it is all true - scrutineering at 18.00 today, start 08.30 tomorrow. I drove a similar car yesterday around Monaco - it actually has a built in noise to make when it is under 30 km/h to warn pedestrians! The equivalent of the man with the red flag who had to walk ahead of you in the olden days (before even I was born).
Not sure why Nissan called it a Leaf - as it is brand new, I sincerely hope I do not turn it over (sorry, my sense of humour needs recharging). Apparently it handles very well because it has 300 kg of battery hidden under the floor. Famous last words...
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Talking of Leafs have you seen the new artifical leaf tecnology break through and no this is not and April Fools gag. Apparently it could pave to way to the future and revolutionise energy harvesting from the sun.

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Technically, the first artificial leaf was developed more than 10 years ago by John Turner of the U.S. National Renewable Energy Lab in Boulder, Colo.

However, Turner's device used rare, expensive materials and was highly unstable.
Come on John - get a grip! We need a leaf made from readily available, cheap stable materials... Maybe it's time to stop moderating and get inventing!
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Well I survived, and managed not to turn over the new Leaf. We finished 2nd in the full electric class, actually we were first on regularity but lost out on consumption to a Mitsubishi which was much smaller and lighter. The Col de la Madone stage was quite hairy, we had to average 47 km/h with a steep climb to start with then a very narrow and winding descent where I had to squeeze past the guy in front who had lost one minute on the way up. The Leaf has amazing handling, all the weight in the floor - you hardly have to slow down for the hairpins, it's glued to the road, a normal petrol car would have been on two wheels. And the acceleration out of the corners is astonishing. The full rally was actually won by Erik Comas (former Ligier driver), in a Tesla, which is based on a Lotus Elise with full electric engine, but has much longer range than the Leaf.
Anyway an interesting experience. Now looking forward to the past!
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According to the radio today, Bernie E has been charged (excuse the pun) with developing an electric GP. Will Marcus be the first Tenther to be a member of the GPDA?
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They called, they want me to drive the pacemaker
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According to the radio today, Bernie E has been charged (excuse the pun) with developing an electric GP.
I suppose this would give a revised nuance to being 'on the grid'.

On the other hand one could foresee an option to merge with athletics (to reduce costs) and provide the drivers with their own KERS system - pedal powered - that would allow their personal fitness to influence results. Might have to resort to oval tracks of course. First lap run in lanes .... that sort of thing.
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Might have to resort to oval tracks of course. First lap run in lanes .... that sort of thing.
Following an electric hare?
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Following an electric hare?

Would that be a replacement for a pace car?

Bernie's sprinkler concept might not be terribly advisable so I suppse a hare brained course could be developed as an alternative.
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Discharged surely?
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At least the hares may know when to pull off.

Search YouTube for the Le Mans Endurance race at Le Castellet over the weekend for enlightenment if this means nothing to you....
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