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Old 12 Mar 2017, 03:31 (Ref:3718113)   #8611
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Not entirely true. There's a V10 engine for privateer cars on the market, but no one is taking it. Remember Toyota was rumored to go back to a V8 turbo too.
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Old 12 Mar 2017, 20:02 (Ref:3718248)   #8612
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Hindy at Midweek Motorsports is reporting that the ACO and FIA approved rules that will make most LMP1 and LMP2 cars obsolete. It concerns driver position in the cars, but there's no timeline on when it will be implemented.
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Old 13 Mar 2017, 07:52 (Ref:3718321)   #8613
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Hindy at Midweek Motorsports is reporting that the ACO and FIA approved rules that will make most LMP1 and LMP2 cars obsolete. It concerns driver position in the cars, but there's no timeline on when it will be implemented.
Do the drivers stand in the pit lane with remote controls
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Old 13 Mar 2017, 19:34 (Ref:3718441)   #8614
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Nothing like a change of technical rules to increase costs and push manufacturers away.
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Old 13 Mar 2017, 20:04 (Ref:3718452)   #8615
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Audi Sport is gone, TMG threatening to leave, Porsche's long term future uncertain, only one car maker talking about coming in but with some major cost cuts.

IMO, even if TMG's threats are just saber rattling or mere complaining, after the Audi pullout, there's some cause for concern.
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Old 14 Mar 2017, 00:37 (Ref:3718476)   #8617
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Audi Sport is gone, TMG threatening to leave, Porsche's long term future uncertain, only one car maker talking about coming in but with some major cost cuts.

IMO, even if TMG's threats are just saber rattling or mere complaining, after the Audi pullout, there's some cause for concern.
Read dsc's piece on that. There isn't any threat to leave. They're planned to stay through the current rules and as long as hybrids stay it seems they will.
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Hindy at Midweek Motorsports is reporting that the ACO and FIA approved rules that will make most LMP1 and LMP2 cars obsolete. It concerns driver position in the cars, but there's no timeline on when it will be implemented.
Isn't that just the changes that were going to be in the 2018 rules?
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Old 14 Mar 2017, 04:32 (Ref:3718489)   #8619
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Indeed! -Also they never let a crisis go to waste: Introduce the old dire need to cut costs based on Audi leaving, although Audi's departure had nothing directly to do with costs being too high. Audi would have left if the costs were 50% of what they are currently. The "Diesel-gate" crisis made it almost a requirement.
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Old 14 Mar 2017, 16:36 (Ref:3718595)   #8620
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Roger Penske says he made an enquiry to Audi about running its LMP1 cars on a privateer basis at the Le Mans 24 Hours this year Ė but the German manufacturer said no.

https://www.motorsport.com/lemans/ne...e-mans-882782/
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Old 14 Mar 2017, 16:43 (Ref:3718598)   #8621
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That article pretty much confirms Audi left to save face. It wasn't costs, it wasn't technology, it was blatantly "we can't be seen"; probably running a diesel. Pretty sad that the decisions from the road car division had this affect. So bad that not even a privateer team can pick up the pieces.
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Old 14 Mar 2017, 17:14 (Ref:3718607)   #8622
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IMO, any sabre rattling at this stage is cause for concern, since Audi Sport left in large part to save face in the court of public opinion on dieselgate. It also doesn't help that they were probably feeling that the diesel tech had gone about as far as they felt it could go without ditching it for a gasoline engine anyways with the increased emphasis on hybrid tech.

Sadly, all my solutions for getting factory teams back into the series at least partially means "going backwards" with the rules, such as bringing back air restrictors and engine displacement limits, and bumping up minimum weight back to at least 900kgs.

Granted Audi very well may be back by 2020--provided that the rules give them the scope to do something different than Toyota and Porsche, even if they have to run a gasoline engine. I think that's where talk of the hydrogen hybrid comes in.

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