WEC Ginetta LMP1 - Page 23

**Aysedasi** · 11 Jun 2018, 05:58 (Ref:3828269)

When they drove away from scrutineering they stopped at the traffic lights in front of us. We asked if they had the LD package and the answer given was brief - 'Some'. When we asked if they could use it, there was no response....

Deleted · 11 Jun 2018, 06:03 (Ref:3828273)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

When they drove away from scrutineering they stopped at the traffic lights in front of us. We asked if they had the LD package and the answer given was brief - 'Some'. When we asked if they could use it, there was no response....

Bizarre how late ACO is in confirming these

Same with the yet unreleased updated EoT tables. Even the teams probably don't know them yet considering press hasn't seen them either and they usually get them couple of days in advance before they show up on FIA site

rdjones · 11 Jun 2018, 07:29 (Ref:3828285)

Good luck to them, from looking at the photo I can see they have Kimi Raikkonen ex-race engineer as part of the engineering team.

Mike E · 11 Jun 2018, 11:03 (Ref:3828353)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

When they drove away from scrutineering they stopped at the traffic lights in front of us. We asked if they had the LD package and the answer given was brief - 'Some'. When we asked if they could use it, there was no response....

Confirmation of the 'sort of' low downforce configuration. These guys have a lot of catching up to do and they know it. I hope they have a reliable run through the week.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...to-rumble.html

Yuri G. · 11 Jun 2018, 11:16 (Ref:3828357)

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Originally Posted by Damian Baldi

I think the answer could be "yes". I been looking for pictures of the test at the Bugatti circuit but couldn't find any. Had they tested there?

If they really don't surprise me at the first practice with a new front, I think this is all they have.

As the article posted by Mike E stated, they run without diveplanes also on Test Day
https://youtu.be/Hl5K-in0bQA?t=54
https://youtu.be/IL7wDcTnyCc?t=8

Babapapa · 13 Jun 2018, 19:43 (Ref:3829056)

Beautiful car, unfortunately, still with developmental backlog. Hope to see more of the Ginettas this weekend, but they may also apply for the JLOC Trophy.

I hope that the team continues to believe in their concept and that the car will progress and will have successful future.

Juntos · 13 Jun 2018, 23:01 (Ref:3829186)

The good thing at Ginetta/Manor camp is Lowdon and Booth are used to be the last.

Applaud, my friends, the comedy is over. Or not!

JoeW04 · 14 Jun 2018, 03:55 (Ref:3829201)

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Originally Posted by rdjones

Good luck to them, from looking at the photo I can see they have Kimi Raikkonen ex-race engineer as part of the engineering team.

Dave Greenword...I imagine he's thinking what have I done atm

**Aysedasi** · 14 Jun 2018, 08:54 (Ref:3829225)

It was all a bit sad. We spent a lot of time 'cheering' their rare appearances on track, willing them to get some serious lappery in.... I hope they can get something together tonight.

rdjones · 14 Jun 2018, 09:06 (Ref:3829228)

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Originally Posted by JoeW04

Dave Greenword...I imagine he's thinking what have I done atm

That's the chap but remember he was quite high up in Manor F1 and I knew him when I was younger so his routes are in Yorkshire.

I was worried yesterday by the lack of running. However they did get some good running in the second half of the second session. Hopefully they will get some good amount of running today.

maximus · 14 Jun 2018, 11:14 (Ref:3829250)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

The good thing at Ginetta/Manor camp is Lowdon and Booth are used to be the last.

Applaud, my friends, the comedy is over. Or not!

Why so much negativity!? Have Ginetta offended you personally or something?

Juntos · 14 Jun 2018, 13:45 (Ref:3829288)

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Originally Posted by maximus

Why so much negativity!?

If you have something positive to add up to the topic, please feel free. Yesterday they suffered several mechanical problems on both cars, including a forced engine change between sessions. The best car of the team is almost 11 seconds behind the fastest non-hybrid entry. I can't see any positives here.

**BertMk2** · 14 Jun 2018, 13:47 (Ref:3829289)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

I can't see any positives here.

They're at Le Mans?

Akrapovic · 14 Jun 2018, 14:10 (Ref:3829295)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

They're at Le Mans?

I see what you're saying, but in January the statement was that the car would be competitive with a Toyota that could do 3:14s (they specifically mentioned the 3:14 lap time) and that the aim was to win Le Mans. If we now consider it a positive that they're simply at the circuit, then that's very very disappointing.

Yeah, it's good to try and be positive and try and get behind the underdogs, but I didn't expect much and I'm still disappointed so far. Really hope they can at least tag onto the tail of the LMP1 field and make it through the night.

**Adam43** · 14 Jun 2018, 15:21 (Ref:3829306)

I think the question was more why do you need to stick the boot in. As opposed to what is going well for them.

maximus · 14 Jun 2018, 16:36 (Ref:3829316)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I think the question was more why do you need to stick the boot in. As opposed to what is going well for them.

This. Thanks Adam. There is criticism, then there is the tone you are taking Juntos. To counter your post there is also a saying, that is if you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all.

All I've seen from you is negativity belittling them with each post and it's not very constructive or good to read. At least they are trying, with after the funding fiasco which wasn't Ginettas fault is the best they can do.

Akrapovic · 14 Jun 2018, 16:39 (Ref:3829317)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I think the question was more why do you need to stick the boot in. As opposed to what is going well for them.

Fair point.

maximus · 14 Jun 2018, 18:38 (Ref:3829412)

Looks like they are getting there slowly... Down to a 3:24 for the #6 with 13 laps this session, much more positive!

EffectiveSprinkles · 14 Jun 2018, 19:23 (Ref:3829429)

Harsh criticism was definitely deserved after the delays and Spa fiasco. However they seem to now have set upon a path upwards again, there's no need to try to kick them down again at this point.

Damian Baldi · 14 Jun 2018, 19:50 (Ref:3829443)

Now both cars ahead of the P2 field. They improve at every run, they need this run.

TF110 · 14 Jun 2018, 22:15 (Ref:3829533)

Only about a second behind the Kolles. That looks satisfactory imo.

Juntos · 14 Jun 2018, 23:19 (Ref:3829548)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Only about a second behind the Kolles. That looks satisfactory imo.

We don't need to share the same opinions as others, but we need to be respectful.

“We believe our car’s on the pace,” said L.Tomlinson at https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/f...-hours-le-mans

“If you look at the weight difference on our car, the power upgrade, better aero than a P2 and better tires, it’s hard to see how you’re not going to be running very similar lap times to the hybrids."
said L.Tomlinson at http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/t...r-overall-win/

FormulaFox · 15 Jun 2018, 01:35 (Ref:3829563)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

We don't need to share the same opinions as others, but we need to be respectful.

“We believe our car’s on the pace,” said L.Tomlinson at https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/f...-hours-le-mans

“If you look at the weight difference on our car, the power upgrade, better aero than a P2 and better tires, it’s hard to see how you’re not going to be running very similar lap times to the hybrids."
said L.Tomlinson at http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/t...r-overall-win/

And since those statements were made, every single other LMP1 team has been able to put a race under their belt(though not all finished it) while the Ginettas sat idle trying to work out financial problems.

They would have to have the absolute best racecar ever made to NOT be playing catch up right now.

maximus · 15 Jun 2018, 06:31 (Ref:3829583)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

We don't need to share the same opinions as others, but we need to be respectful.

“We believe our car’s on the pace,” said L.Tomlinson at https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/f...-hours-le-mans

“If you look at the weight difference on our car, the power upgrade, better aero than a P2 and better tires, it’s hard to see how you’re not going to be running very similar lap times to the hybrids."
said L.Tomlinson at http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/t...r-overall-win/

Seriously what is your problem!?

rdjones · 15 Jun 2018, 07:14 (Ref:3829587)

I think they have done really well. We all know about the problems at Spa which didn't help and remember they lost pretty much the whole of the first session on Wednesday as well.

Let's see what happens in the race 24 hours is a long time.....

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