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1963 1 14.29%
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Old 18 Nov 2022, 10:13 (Ref:4134108)   #1
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The GSOH - Round Two - 1963 vs 1997

The next match of the GSOH bracket puts 1963 up against 1997.

Summaries from Wikipedia:

1963 - Jim Clark won his first championship with seven wins to two by Graham Hill and one by John Surtees in a revised Ferrari. This record number of wins in a season was not equalled until Alain Prost won seven races in 1984 driving a McLaren MP4/2, and it was not beaten until 1988 when Ayrton Senna won eight races in the McLaren MP4/4 (his teammate Prost again won seven races in 1988). However, unlike 1963 which only consisted of ten races, both the 1984 and 1988 seasons consisted of 16 races giving Clark a better winning ratio (70%) than either Prost (43.75%) or Senna (50%).

The ATS venture, founded by ex-Ferrari workers, was a failure which damaged Phil Hill's Grand Prix career. It was unrelated to the late 1970s German operation which was marginally more successful.




1997 - The season started in Australia, with Canadian Jacques Villeneuve taking the first pole position of the season. The moment was short-lived, however, as Villeneuve was out of the race at the first corner after colliding with Johnny Herbert. McLaren's David Coulthard went on to win the race, the second of his career, with Michael Schumacher finishing second and Mika Häkkinen finishing in third place.

Villeneuve once again took pole position in Brazil, and once again he was off at the first corner. Luckily for him the race was restarted, and the Canadian took the lead on lap 49 from Gerhard Berger. The Austrian finished second and Olivier Panis continued his impressive form from 1996 with third place.

For the third time in a row, Jacques Villeneuve was again on pole position for Argentina. However, he was spared another first corner collision, and instead it was Michael Schumacher who collided with Rubens Barrichello. With Schumacher out, Eddie Irvine went on to challenge Villeneuve for the lead, and he made several attempts to pass the Canadian's Williams but failed on all his attempts and had to settle for second. Ralf Schumacher, in his first full season, managed to get onto the podium after he finished third.

Villeneuve continued his run of consecutive pole positions in San Marino. Villeneuve's German teammate, Frentzen, won his first and only Grand Prix for Williams after he finished just over a second ahead of Michael Schumacher, with Eddie Irvine coming third.

Frentzen managed to end Villeneuve's run of pole positions in Monaco. For the second time in successive seasons, the Monaco Grand Prix was raced under very wet conditions. Michael Schumacher won his first race of the season with his future Ferrari teammate, Rubens Barrichello finishing in second and earning Stewart not only their first podium finish, but their first points finish and their first finish of any kind. Irvine took the final step on the podium for the second time in a row.

In Spain, Williams continued to dominate the qualifying session, as Villeneuve, for the fifth time this season, took pole and Frentzen made sure Williams occupied both slots on the front row. Villeneuve went on to win the Grand Prix, with fellow French-speaking drivers, Olivier Panis and Jean Alesi, coming second and third respectively.

Williams's run of consecutive pole positions was broken in Canada where Michael Schumacher took pole; Rubens Barrichello's Stewart split the two Williams in third place. Schumacher went on to win the Grand Prix, with ex-Ferrari driver Jean Alesi finishing second and Giancarlo Fisichella coming in third. Schumacher earned his second pole of the season in France; he was accompanied by Frentzen on the front row. The two would stay in their respective positions at the end of the race, with Eddie Irvine in third.

Villeneuve earned his sixth pole of the season in Britain, with teammate Frentzen partnering him on the front row. After Häkkinen retired from the lead, Villeneuve went on to win the race with Alesi and young Alexander Wurz coming third to make it an all Renault-powered podium. Michael Schumacher failed to complete the race after he retired with a wheel bearing problem.

Gerhard Berger, who had not competed at the previous Grand Prix because of the illness and the death of his father, managed to get pole position for the German Grand Prix. Fastest lap and race victory followed, which would ultimately be Berger's and Benetton's final win. Michael Schumacher came second and Mika Häkkinen came third.

The next race, in Hungary, was one of the most memorable races in the 1997 season. Michael Schumacher took pole with Villeneuve partnering him on the front row. Damon Hill, in an Arrows which had not qualified as high as ninth before the Hungarian Grand Prix, qualified up in third place. The start of the race saw Hill overtake Villeneuve's Williams and on lap ten, the Brit overtook Schumacher to take the lead. Hill kept the lead for the final rounds of pit stops, but coming into the finale of the race, Hill reported that his Arrows was having problems, and in the end, Jacques Villeneuve took the lead on the final lap of the race and went on to win the race, achieving the milestone 100th Grand Prix victory for Williams.

After two very exciting Grands Prix, fans were hoping that Belgium would prove to be an exciting one as well. Villeneuve took pole position with Alesi's Benetton completing the front row. The race was wet and Villeneuve dropped down to fifth place, while his championship rival, Michael Schumacher, won the race by starting on intermediate tyres (as opposed to full wet). Fisichella came second, followed by Frentzen in third.

Alesi got his first, and only, pole position of the season in Italy with Frentzen coming second. David Coulthard won the race, his second of the season; pole sitter Alesi came second and Frentzen came third.

In Austria, Villeneuve managed to get his seventh pole position of the 1997 season; the Canadian was partnered on the front row by Finnish driver Mika Häkkinen. Villeneuve went on to win the Grand Prix with Coulthard and Frentzen joining him on the podium in second and third respectively. Michael Schumacher finished 6th after receiving a 10-second stop/go penalty for overtaking under yellow flag conditions.

The next race was the so-called "Luxembourg Grand Prix", actually staged at the Nürburgring in Germany. Mika Häkkinen, who had qualified second at the previous Grand Prix, managed to earn pole. McLaren looked set for a 1–2 finish until both cars broke down in quick succession. Villeneuve was therefore gifted a win, which would end up being his last in F1, while title rival Michael Schumacher was taken out at the first corner. Alesi and Frentzen completed the podium, making it, for the second time in the 1997 season, an all Renault-powered podium.

Japan saw Villeneuve, for the eighth time that season, take pole position. Villeneuve was disqualified from the race, after failing to slow down under yellow flags during qualifying. He raced under appeal, but finished only fifth. Michael Schumacher won the race, while Frentzen came second and Irvine came third. Villeneuve's Williams team dropped his appeal after the race, leaving Schumacher one point ahead of Villeneuve in the Drivers' Championship, meaning that the title would be decided at the season finale in Jerez.

At Jerez, the qualifying session was noteworthy, as three drivers, Villeneuve, Schumacher, and Frentzen, all registered the same fastest qualifying time. Villeneuve was awarded pole position since he had set the time first, and this would be the final pole of his F1 career. At the start of the race, Schumacher had a good start, overtaking Villeneuve to take the lead. By lap 48 Villeneuve was catching up to Schumacher and attempted to overtake. Braking later than the German at the Dry Sac corner, Villeneuve had the inside line and was slightly ahead when Schumacher turned into him, his front right wheel connecting with the sidepod of the Williams car. Schumacher retired on the spot and Villeneuve went to take third place and earn four points, enough to take the 1997 title. Schumacher was later punished by the FIA for causing an avoidable accident and was disqualified from the championship, although his race results (grid position, finishing position, points) still counted towards his official statistics. In the race itself, Mika Häkkinen went on to take his first ever career victory.

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I voted for 1997, I think it was one of the best seasons of the last thirty years, with a brilliant title battle between an outstanding driver in a good car and a good driver in an outstanding car. There were plenty of classic races, including some major upsets with Damon Hill almost winning for Arrows, one of the finest ever F1 drives in my opinion, and Jarno Trulli leading for Prost. Then it all ended in controversy, but in this situation, the right outcome came out of it.

However, I would also have liked to have seen 1963 go to the next round, if it had been paired with a lesser season. Nobody likes to see dominance in Formula 1 nowadays, it tends to make the season far more boring when Verstappen, Hamilton, Vettel or Schumacher is dominating the season. But sometimes dominance can be at a level that is so awe-inspiring that a season like 1963 can still be good. There can be no doubt that Colin Chapman and Lotus deserve a huge amount of credit for creating the best car on the grid, the Lotus 25, one of the first monocoque chassis'd (I don't know how to spell this word!) cars, but even armed with such brilliant machinery, Jim Clark put in one of the finest ever season performances in 1963. In the first four races, Clark led the race in Monaco but spun out with gearbox failure, and then preceded to lead every lap the next three races in Spa-Francorchamps, Zandvoort and Reims, grand-slamming the final two despite, remarkably, having used the same tyres in all four races.

Clark's drive in Spa was perhaps the greatest ever in Formula 1, as he zipped around the outside to pass seven cars and take the lead into Eau Rouge on lap one, and then drove away to win by an extraordinary five minutes despite driving one-handed due to having to hold his gear stick in place, in increasingly torrential rain, on the streets of Spa-Francorchamps, among the most dangerous tracks in the world. He then lapped the entire field in Zandvoort, and won by a minute in Reims in the wet despite running the four-race old Dunlop tyres. It highlighted how Clark was able to drive so smoothly, and yet still be by far the fastest.

Clark then won dominantly in Silverstone, although he did fluff the start and had to pass Hill, McLaren, Gurney and Brabham in the first three laps. He was beaten to victory in the Nurburgring by John Surtees, but this was partly due to an engine glitch, while Clark prevailed in a Monza slipstreamer as Hill, Surtees and Gurney dropped out. Clark lost a lap in Watkins Glen due to an issue at the start but recovered to third, faster than Hill and Ginther, while he ended the season with two more dominant victories in Mexico City and East London, both from pole, with every lap led, and over a minute ahead by the finish. If he had had perfect reliability, Jim Clark would likely have taken a clean sweep of every race in 1963. One of the most extraordinary season performances of all time, although Clark arguably eclipsed it in 1965, despite his F1 record being less impressive (but his car wasn't as good as in 1963), by also winning the Tasman series and the Indy 500, and the British F2 championship, and winning a few races in the British Saloon Car Championship.
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97. We had a really competitive season, so much so that the two title rivals, Schumi and JV never finished on the podium in the same race! The return of Bridgestone allowed teams like Arrows, Prost and Stewart to upset the odds on occasion. Possibly the best and most competitive season of the 90s.
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